[Football] First Premier League manager to be sacked ?

[zefarelly]

None of the above in my opinion. Sean Dyche IS Burnley and without him they will probably go down, his style of football may be aggresive, dour and ultra defensive, but he is playing to their strengths.

I think that Fulham have made two astute loan signings in Loftus Cheek and particularly Lookman, and l expect them to start winning a few games soon, so Scotty Parker should survive for now.

That just leaves Roy, who is a wily old campaigner, and someone that l find impossible to dislike. Palarse will probably finish above us in the table again this season.

My tips for the first to go? either Slaven Bilic at the other Albion, out of their depth in this division l think, and this season's Norwich, or maybe Solskjaer at Man U who are woefully under performing.

Agree re Woy . . . Ole is close if not on the block, BUT, they did beat BHA and PSG, 2 significant scalps

 

[Easy 10]

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Palace beat Southampton on the opening day.

Whatever, I'm not talking calendars. The point is, beating a very flaky Man Utd at OT papered over a lot of cracks for CPFC2010. You have an ageing, expensive, unbalanced squad. Roy can usually organise you well enough to pick up the odd result here and there that keeps the wolf from the door, but from what I've seen, its truly turgid stuff.

BHA have done turgid and thankfully progressed from it. No signs of that happening any time soon at Selhurst.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Solskjaer is the most likely - but purely because of the incompetence of Woodward and the antics of the Glazers

Bilic is the next obvious choice - but I suspect that it could take some time for heads to roll this season (Watford aren't around any more)

 

[Frankie]

I actually admire Roy , he could be pruning the Rose's on a Caribbean island without a care in the world yet chooses to remain in what must be a very stressful job and with it has to be said a modicum of success.

I hope he resigns his post rather than be sacked because I think he could be the first to go this season .

 

[Bozza]

I actually admire Roy , he could be pruning the Rose's on a Caribbean island without a care in the world yet chooses to remain in what must be a very stressful job and with it has to be said a modicum of success.

I hope he resigns his post rather than be sacked because I think he could be the first to go this season .

Assuming he keeps Palace's head above water, and he is annoyingly good at doing that, it feels like it would make sense for Palace to let his contract run out this season and spend the time lining up a successor.

I guess their problem is they've tried the football revolution approach when they brought in Frank de Boer, and it went so disastrously he was jettisoned almost immediately, making way for Roy's safe pair of hands. Do they have the appetite to try the progressive route again?

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Whatever, I'm not talking calendars. The point is, beating a very flaky Man Utd at OT papered over a lot of cracks for CPFC2010. You have an ageing, expensive, unbalanced squad. Roy can usually organise you well enough to pick up the odd result here and there that keeps the wolf from the door, but from what I've seen, its truly turgid stuff.

BHA have done turgid and thankfully progressed from it. No signs of that happening any time soon at Selhurst.

Call it turgid as much as yhou like, Palace continue to finish above us in the table season after season though.

I have to admit to admiring Palace's recruitment process actually,rather than signing young unknown wannabees and hope they come good in future seasons, aka the Albion way, they seem to focus on more mature seasoned professionals who although past their best, have plenty of Premier League experience, and hand out one or maybe two year deals.

In other words they just concentrate on trying to secure their Premier League survival in the short term. It's all very well having long term aims,but we could be in the Championship, or even worse, before our younger signings come good.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Assuming he keeps Palace's head above water, and he is annoyingly good at doing that, it feels like it would make sense for Palace to let his contract run out this season and spend the time lining up a successor.

I guess their problem is they've tried the football revolution approach when they brought in Frank de Boer, and it went so disastrously he was jettisoned almost immediately, making way for Roy's safe pair of hands. Do they have the appetite to try the progressive route again?

To a large extent, Palace, just like ourselves are makeweights in the Premier League, merely staying there and gracing their table, can be viewed as a success. If they have any sense they will stick with him.

 

[crodonilson]

Assuming he keeps Palace's head above water, and he is annoyingly good at doing that, it feels like it would make sense for Palace to let his contract run out this season and spend the time lining up a successor.

I guess their problem is they've tried the football revolution approach when they brought in Frank de Boer, and it went so disastrously he was jettisoned almost immediately, making way for Roy's safe pair of hands. Do they have the appetite to try the progressive route again?

Doubt it, obvious successor is Big Sam. Either him or Curbishley.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Doubt it, obvious successor is Big Sam. Either him or Curbishley.

Even those two have finally had their day now. How long has it been sice Curbs actually managed a club anyway?

 

[One Love]

Call it turgid as much as yhou like, Palace continue to finish above us in the table season after season though.

I have to admit to admiring Palace's recruitment process actually,rather than signing young unknown wannabees and hope they come good in future seasons, aka the Albion way, they seem to focus on more mature seasoned professionals who although past their best, have plenty of Premier League experience, and hand out one or maybe two year deals.

In other words they just concentrate on trying to secure their Premier League survival in the short term. It's all very well having long term aims,but we could be in the Championship, or even worse, before our younger signings come good.

Their way means going bust if it doesn't work one year. Our way doesn't.

 

[Don Tmatter]

Four wins out of 23 is worse than 'not great', it's disasterous! That said, this is a long term project,and even with relegation, l expect TB to back him.

Even in this current state of pandemic with not the faintest sign of when fans will be allowed back in to the Amex in any great numbers?
Relegation would put an almighty pressure on TB and the club even with the resulting fire sale so no matter how good we look in 2/3’s of the pitch it’s winning the games that’ll keep us up, a bad run up to Xmas and discussions will be had.

 

[peterward]

Doubt it, obvious successor is Big Sam. Either him or Curbishley.

curbishley?

was a good manager, who still had something to offer....... 10 years ago.

Nobody is going to give him a PL gig after so long out of the game.

 

[Me and my Monkey]

Poor old Chris Wilder has Haunted Eyes on SSN this morning. Always a sure sign.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

curbishley?

was a good manager, who still had something to offer....... 10 years ago.

Nobody is going to give him a PL gig after so long out of the game.

Indeed, Chris found it difficult enough to get back into managing in the Championship, and that was after only a couple of years or so of being ousted.

 

[Justice]

I would stick with Potter even if we go down. And I bet the club feel the same way.

Maybe although you will have a whole set of issues, has he lost the dressing room do the players still believe in something that’s not getting results. It’s not as simple as keep Potter if we go down. Anyhow I’m sure that won’t be the case and we will finish a comfortable mid table this season.

 

[Easy 10]

Call it turgid as much as yhou like, Palace continue to finish above us in the table season after season though.

I have to admit to admiring Palace's recruitment process actually,rather than signing young unknown wannabees and hope they come good in future seasons, aka the Albion way, they seem to focus on more mature seasoned professionals who although past their best, have plenty of Premier League experience, and hand out one or maybe two year deals.

In other words they just concentrate on trying to secure their Premier League survival in the short term. It's all very well having long term aims,but we could be in the Championship, or even worse, before our younger signings come good.

This of course ignores the fact that BHA have just signed Lallana and Welbeck - players who fit that "mature seasoned professionals" description precisely. AKA, the "Albion way" is currently to sign such players, and integrate them into the squad with younger players who have come from the U23's and/or graduated from loan spells in the EFL, and the guys who have now had 2-3 years now playing at this level. Nice blend.

Practically every team is a work in progress, but I'd say our process is more likely to work out in the medium to long term than the one up the road.

 

[Jim in the West]

Even in this current state of pandemic with not the faintest sign of when fans will be allowed back in to the Amex in any great numbers?
Relegation would put an almighty pressure on TB and the club even with the resulting fire sale so no matter how good we look in 2/3’s of the pitch it’s winning the games that’ll keep us up, a bad run up to Xmas and discussions will be had.

Relegation would be problematic, I'm sure, but the insurance policy is well and truly in place - namely, a whole bunch of young, exciting prospects - be they already in the first team, or in the U23s, or in Poland, or be called Percy. I have absolutely no doubt that Potter will be around for a long time, whether we are in the Premier League of the Championship.

 

[Easy 10]

Indeed, Chris found it difficult enough to get back into managing in the Championship, and that was after only a couple of years or so of being ousted.

Sorry, I'm not picking on you. But Chris was in the luxurious position of being able to pick and choose his next job, having doubtless just had a mammoth payoff from TB after he got binned off. I don't think he's had a difficult job getting back into management whatsoever - he's more likely to have fancied a break, and just wait until something came along at the right time for him to take it on. Forest are a big club, he'll have no doubt had assurances about financial backing from the owner, and unsurprisingly he fancied taking it on. Hughton's stock is such that he'd never have needed to jump at the first offer of a job once he'd got the heave-ho from BHA.

 

[zefarelly]

Sorry, I'm not picking on you. But Chris was in the luxurious position of being able to pick and choose his next job, having doubtless just had a mammoth payoff from TB after he got binned off. I don't think he's had a difficult job getting back into management whatsoever - he's more likely to have fancied a break, and just wait until something came along at the right time for him to take it on. Forest are a big club, he'll have no doubt had assurances about financial backing from the owner, and unsurprisingly he fancied taking it on. Hughton's stock is such that he'd never have needed to jump at the first offer of a job once he'd got the heave-ho from BHA.

Hughton's stash is such that he'd never have needed to jump at anything if he didn't want to.

 

[MJsGhost]

Four wins out of 23 is worse than 'not great', it's disasterous! That said, this is a long term project,and even with relegation, l expect TB to back him.

To give a bit of context to those 23 games

9 defeats:
Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd (twice), Chelsea, Everton (twice), Palace & Plucky.

Only the last two of these stand out as particularly poor. The one at last season's Everton is more disappointing than the other week given the difference in squad this year. Losing to Man City, Liverpool, Man U, Chelsea and (this season's) Everton is not 'disastrous' and we deserved more from this season's Man U game and vs Chelsea.

10 draws:
Can't be arsed to go through them all, but a point's a point and a draw is rarely 'disastrous'

4 wins:
Not as many as it should be, that's for sure.

Overall, 22 points from 23 games is disappointing and would be more worrying if the performances hadn't suggested anything better. Yet they clearly do.

22 points from 23 games is the more complete picture and is more positive than the selective stat of "only 4 wins in 23 games"

Room for improvement? Certainly.

Cause for concern? Maybe. If we carry on dominating teams and failing to win while we are in good form, then yes (and god help us if we lose form).

Disastrous? Not on your nelly