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[Football] First Female Manager?



m@goo

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Feb 20, 2020
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Would be groundbreaking... concept is hard to get used to just due to the fact it’s something completely new (I’m honest not sexist), but it would be absolutely intriguing if it happened. I’m all for offering equal jobs regardless of sex, in any arena. However the desperate scramble to suddenly go all PC as possible in football punditry, has lead to Karen Cairney getting a job doing it and she’s utterly woeful!

I'm sure some male pundits have got the job just because of who they are and been awful too. If she's woeful she'll be dropped just like any other pundit. The important thing is the drive for diversity on our screens especially in football. Football isn't just attended by middle aged white men so it shouldn't be reported on solely by middle aged white men.
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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It's easy to underestimate just how much of a disadvantage it is not to have a Y chromosome. One of the England ladies' cricket players - Alex Hartley - plays occasional Lancashire League cricket. For Clitheroe 2nd XI. There are at least 10 amateur players in Clitheroe better than her. Not her fault, that is biology.

While agreeing with the general thrust of the argument that women can't compete in male sport, I think cricket could be the exception. There have been plenty of men of, er, small stature who have played top class cricket - the greatest batsman of all, Bradman, was pretty diminutive. Batting is all in the timing, who don't have to be that physically strong. Bowling is different: you're never going to get a female pace bowler who can compete with men, but I see no reason why a spinner couldn't.

It's already nearly happened. A few years back, Sussex registered Sarah Taylor in a year when they were short of keepers. As it turned out, Sussex found another keeper and she didn't play but I'm sure she wouldn't have been outclassed (Adam Gilchrist described her as the best keeper in the world - male or female) and, if it hadn't been for her well-publicised problems, she may well have played F/C by now.

It will happen: I'm sure we'll see a female in the men's game in my lifetime.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Call me a dinosaur, but I hate the idea... We already have female reporters, pundits, and a parallel female game. Ruddy women get in everywhere! ...
of course there are particular problems in football ( I know Phil Neville coached the women) What happens in the dressing room ?
To the Junior players he should be a father figure...
All I can say is No No No!

What happens in the dressing room? Maybe she will tidy up, put a few cushions out and light some scented candles then moan the minute someone sits down for messing it up? “I’ve just tidied this place up!”

Or maybe she isn’t an immature school child...Neville seemed to be able to deal with a female dressing room.
 


Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
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Not convinced personally and expect PC crew to get involved .

Blokes changing rooms ( in fact most groups of blokes ) notoriously very non pc ( despite what the internet and social media say ) .

Could see it ending in lawsuits and front page scandals

Happy to see it though . Just think would be A car crash one way or other .
 


Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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Call me a dinosaur, but I hate the idea... We already have female reporters, pundits, and a parallel female game. Ruddy women get in everywhere! ...
of course there are particular problems in football ( I know Phil Neville coached the women) What happens in the dressing room ?
To the Junior players he should be a father figure...
All I can say is No No No!

My best mate's a T-rex and he says your opinions are shitehouse.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Not convinced personally and expect PC crew to get involved .

Blokes changing rooms ( in fact most groups of blokes ) notoriously very non pc ( despite what the internet and social media say ) .

Could see it ending in lawsuits and front page scandals

Happy to see it though . Just think would be A car crash one way or other .

What goes on in your changing room then? I have been in many changing rooms...nothing that interesting has ever happened.
 
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drew

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It makes sense really.
There are plenty of female senior officers in the military and police and female managers in civilian life so I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner to have a female football manager.
I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see female footballers alongside male players too one day.
Certainly mixed football could become a thing like in tennis.
Could work in cricket too.

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth.
 






amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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Because he never went in changing room Neville had 5mins on pitch with players at half time. Maybe capable but can’t see woman managing in FL. Farce if manager not able to enter changing room
 




SAC

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May 21, 2014
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I didn't know Hodges had been sacked at Wimbledon. I feel a bit sorry for them as they may not appoint Hayes and it may have nothing to do with her sex.

Good luck to them, whoever they choose. Good luck to Hayes if appointed, she will need it, a lot of people will be desperate for her to fail.
 




lawros left foot

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Because he never went in changing room Neville had 5mins on pitch with players at half time. Maybe capable but can’t see woman managing in FL. Farce if manager not able to enter changing room


Why on Earth could a female manager not go in the dressing room at halftime?
Do the players all get naked or something?

I can’t see any barriers to a Woman being a professional manager, apart from ability.
Male managers have about 20 minutes before a game in the dressing room, I’m sure the players could get themselves dressed before the manager comes in.
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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I'm sure some male pundits have got the job just because of who they are and been awful too. If she's woeful she'll be dropped just like any other pundit. The important thing is the drive for diversity on our screens especially in football. Football isn't just attended by middle aged white men so it shouldn't be reported on solely by middle aged white men.

Totally agree - but the ‘drive’ has lead to a shocking pundit. Much like the ex player drive (or should we say racial equality PC drive). Couldn’t give a **** what they look like or gender - just if they’re a good analyst! I suppose Michael Owen did get a job before this new drive though...
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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I didn't know Someone had been sacked at Wimbledon. I feel a bit sorry for them as they may not appoint Hayes and it may have nothing to do with her sex.

Good luck to them, whoever they choose. Good luck to Hayes if appointed, she will need it, a lot of people will be desperate for her to fail.

Annoyingly they lost the game every football fan wanted them to win at the weekend :(
 




GT49er

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While agreeing with the general thrust of the argument that women can't compete in male sport, I think cricket could be the exception. There have been plenty of men of, er, small stature who have played top class cricket - the greatest batsman of all, Bradman, was pretty diminutive. Batting is all in the timing, who don't have to be that physically strong. Bowling is different: you're never going to get a female pace bowler who can compete with men, but I see no reason why a spinner couldn't.

It's already nearly happened. A few years back, Sussex registered Sarah Taylor in a year when they were short of keepers. As it turned out, Sussex found another keeper and she didn't play but I'm sure she wouldn't have been outclassed (Adam Gilchrist described her as the best keeper in the world - male or female) and, if it hadn't been for her well-publicised problems, she may well have played F/C by now.

It will happen: I'm sure we'll see a female in the men's game in my lifetime.

She did play for the second XI, didn't she?
 






Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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If we ignore the billion or so who dont give a feck

But yea I agree

Who aren’t proper football fans in my opinion. I should have said UK football fans or English tbf. Never forget.
 




Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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Most lads are scared stiff of risking their Mum's wrath. I see no reason why they won't all cower when a female manager is giving them a hard stare.

If she knows her onions and AFC feel she can do the job, then go for it!

She will undoubtedly get sacked at some point in the men's game, either at AFC or elsewhere. How we deal with that will be more telling. Some people will claim it is because she is a woman, but men get sacked all the time.

I've also wondered why Sian Massey hasn't yet taken control of a men's PL game.
 


dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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Why on Earth could a female manager not go in the dressing room at halftime?
Do the players all get naked or something?

I can’t see any barriers to a Woman being a professional manager, apart from ability.
Male managers have about 20 minutes before a game in the dressing room, I’m sure the players could get themselves dressed before the manager comes in.
It really wouldn't matter. Many clubs have female physios now, and I'm sure she doesn't keep her eyes closed when treating them.

Female linesman and referees, I am told, share their changing room with the men.
 


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