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Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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But will they vote to leave? Spain and Russia (plus a few others) are voting for Blatter. And even those who vote for Ali may balk at the idea of boycotting a World Cup - that's a big step to take.
We're not talking about who is voting for Blatter.

I can't see this. As Stato pointed out earlier, Blatter's pitch is as someone who helps the developing countries against European colonialism. UEFA threatening a boycott actually helps Blatter in this regard as he can then say "See, the Europeans are frightened the money is going to Africa, Asia and central America and want it all for themselves". A UEFA boycott is no threat but Brazil joining in is - UEFA plus Brazil IS a threat, particularly if Argentina can join as well
It's not relevant if it helps Blatter's argument. Blatter will win the election, but if UEFA then left, the money would go with UEFA.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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We're not talking about who is voting for Blatter.

It's not relevant if it helps Blatter's argument. Blatter will win the election, but if UEFA then left, the money would go with UEFA.

Not all of it. Whilst it would severely weaken FIFA, if the South American countries, along with Russia, Africa, Asia all stayed then there would be a tournament, and it would allow more non-UEFA countries to play in the finals!
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Not all of it. Whilst it would severely weaken FIFA, if the South American countries, along with Russia, Africa, Asia all stayed then there would be a tournament, and it would allow more non-UEFA countries to play in the finals!

But it would be like the African Nations Cup - surely the 3rd largest international football tournament after the World Cup and the Euro Finals. And no-one outside of Africa cares much for that cup. It's a novelty.
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Not all of it. Whilst it would severely weaken FIFA, if the South American countries, along with Russia, Africa, Asia all stayed then there would be a tournament, and it would allow more non-UEFA countries to play in the finals!

Exactly. Blatter would love a boycott, he could offer loads of additional places to non-European teams and there'd be more money for them. In their hearts, UEFA know this which is why, for all their huffing and puffing, they won't boycott 2018
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Not all of it.
Well obviously not all of it. If two teams outside of UEFA play, and money is made, then not all of it has gone. But I think the bulk of it would go, as it wouldn't only be European countries that left. Would Russia spend the next 30 years playing countries in the middle east, instead of European countries - and leave the Euros? And would South American footballers not want to keep playing for their European (and US) club teams, which could mean they have to leave FIFA (if that was UEFA's ruling)?
 






Kuipers Supporters Club

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Not all of it. Whilst it would severely weaken FIFA, if the South American countries, along with Russia, Africa, Asia all stayed then there would be a tournament, and it would allow more non-UEFA countries to play in the finals!

I am sure premium sponsors would rather pay for a UEFA top tournament, than one which does not have these countries in. If UEFA was to breakaway the money would follow - who on earth would pay to sponsor Gabon v Nicaragua in the 'World Cup' compared to Germany vs. Portugal if the competing competing were held at the same time. It's a bit like the BDO and the PDC.
 


El Presidente

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Well obviously not all of it. If two teams outside of UEFA play, and money is made, then not all of it has gone. But I think the bulk of it would go, as it wouldn't only be European countries that left. Would Russia spend the next 30 years playing countries in the middle east, instead of European countries - and leave the Euros? And would South American footballers not want to keep playing for their European (and US) club teams, which could mean they have to leave FIFA (if that was UEFA's ruling)?

South American and African players would still be able to play in Europe.

It's only the U.S and some UEFA countries that are outraged by all of this. Most others just shrug.
 


El Presidente

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I am sure premium sponsors would rather pay for a UEFA top tournament, than one which does not have these countries in. If UEFA was to breakaway the money would follow - who on earth would pay to sponsor Gabon v Nicaragua in the 'World Cup' compared to Germany vs. Portugal if the competing competing were held at the same time. It's a bit like the BDO and the PDC.

Premium European sponsors yes. But if China qualified for the next WC as a result of this they would certainly have tournament sponsors.
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Premium European sponsors yes. But if China qualified for the next WC as a result of this they would certainly have tournament sponsors.

Yes, there are too many people posting with a Eurocentric view of things. If UEFA and the US pulled out (and assuming no-one from Europe and the US would watch the WC, which is a highly dubious assumption in itself), there'd still be a global audience of 6 billion, many of whom would be prime targets for the sponsors. They love to sell to the Chinese and Indian markets
 


El Presidente

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Sepp Blatter is to football administration what Nigel Farage is to politics. The accusations made about his organisation only make his supporters more fanatical.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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Corruption is an accepted part of life in many of these countries (yes I know it goes on here too but by and large, people are against the idea).

Blatter has been gifting them all millions of pounds for decades now, a great deal of which no doubt goes straight into the pockets of the bent officials. So they're never, ever going to vote for somebody who might put a stop to that particular gravy train.

He'll retain his seat and continue holding the world to random until he dies, the dirty old crook.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,361
Worthing
Sepp Blatter is to football administration what Nigel Farage is to politics. The accusations made about his organisation only make his supporters more fanatical.

And they're both 'orrible ***** - to paraphrase Brick Top from Snatch.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Sepp Blatter is to football administration what Nigel Farage is to politics. The accusations made about his organisation only make his supporters more fanatical.

i say old boy , i have to take umbrage with that comment......seemingly farage represents a reasonable % of the populus where as blatter is a curly little turd lining his own nest.........which one of them would you want to be marooned on a desert island with....??

be honest now old boy ...there's a good chap.
 


KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
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Wolsingham, County Durham
Corruption is an accepted part of life in many of these countries (yes I know it goes on here too but by and large, people are against the idea).

Blatter has been gifting them all millions of pounds for decades now, a great deal of which no doubt goes straight into the pockets of the bent officials. So they're never, ever going to vote for somebody who might put a stop to that particular gravy train.

He'll retain his seat and continue holding the world to random until he dies, the dirty old crook.

Indeed. There has been some outrage in the papers here about possible bribes surrounding 2010, but the SAFA will still vote for Blatter (people seem more concerned that Nelson may have been involved rather than the act itself). He has this election in the bag before voting starts - Africa and Asia 100 votes, add in the 7 or 8 UEFA countries that will vote for him and there you have it. As Blatter's moral compass only points at anyone but him, only the Feds will get him out.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Sepp Blatter is to football administration what Nigel Farage is to politics. The accusations made about his organisation only make his supporters more fanatical.

I'm no friend of UKIP but that's a very poor analogy. I think you need to head left to Lutfur Rahman or George Galloway for a more comparable UK political figure.
 








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