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AmexRuislip

Retired Spy 🕵️‍♂️
Feb 2, 2014
34,766
Ruislip
Was you? Blimey that's some boast but credit to you for avoiding WW3, I am sure we are all very grateful and full credit for not mentioning it on NSC before.

Typo edit:

Castro was involved with Kennedy and Khrushchev during the Cuban missile crisis, a crucial time in history, which luckily never ensued to anything. :)
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,016
That's right. Except of course places like Cuba and China have done far far better at lifting people out if poverty than many equivalent countries within the 'capitalist' economy.

except China has achieved this by adopting market forces and capitialism. the counrty was in an appaling state under Mao.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
If the lefties on here want a Latin American leader to look up to and have as a poster boy then really they need to be looking at ex-Uruguayan President Jose Murica. His credentials are impeccable, ex-guerilla leader imprisoned for 13 years after an attempted takeover of a town where his was the only unit of 6 to succeed with his given objective. When elected his first speech was completely conciliatory and he called for unity saying that there would be no winners or losers "it is a mistake to think that power comes from above when it comes from within the hearts of the masses. It has taken me a lifetime to learn this".

And when in office he was dubbed the poorest world leader, humblest politician etc etc. He was well-deserving of the titles plaudits too. He continued to live in his wife's ramshackle farm rather than the palace, his only possession was a beaten up old car and when he was offered $1M for it he donated the money to charity. A BBC journalist wrote "Mujica left office with a relatively healthy economy and with social stability those bigger neighbours could only dream of."

Now there's a left-winger we can all get behind.
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
RIP to a political Icon. He will have alienated and inspired in equal measure over his lifetime with as many critics as supporters. Such is the way with people who are in power in " Interesting Times" . Still he must go down in history as the only national leader the U.S. Government was unable to coerce,bribe,assassinate or remove from power. That must irk them !
 




Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
the plastic lefties on here will love him of course

but generations of cubans will disagree

buried head in the sand ,big ego ,**** the rest president :thumbsup:

RIP
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Don't forget Grenada, a former British colony and Commonwealth member which the US invaded under Reagan, with Maggie's blessing, to stop a mini-Cuba. Wonder how they've made out since...
i think you'll find Maggie had the raving hump with Ronnie for invading Grenada without so much as a by your leave to the British government
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
i think you'll find Maggie had the raving hump with Ronnie for invading Grenada without so much as a by your leave to the British government

No sign of that from the emergency parliamentary debate.

'You have been an obedient poodle to the American president,' said Denis Healey, Labor foreign affairs spokesman. Accusations of 'lack of grit' 'fecklessness' and 'flaccid indolence' rolled from the verbal pugilist.

The Conservative response was muted. American consultation with Britain over the Grenada invasion was 'regrettably less than we could have wished,' said Sir Geoffrey Howe, the foreign secretary.

She was probably too busy in sending the SAS to train Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge to help them get on with genocide.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
i think you'll find Maggie had the raving hump with Ronnie for invading Grenada without so much as a by your leave to the British government

Brenda and Phil weren't too happy either.
 




Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
No sign of that from the emergency parliamentary debate.

'You have been an obedient poodle to the American president,' said Denis Healey, Labor foreign affairs spokesman. Accusations of 'lack of grit' 'fecklessness' and 'flaccid indolence' rolled from the verbal pugilist.

The Conservative response was muted. American consultation with Britain over the Grenada invasion was 'regrettably less than we could have wished,' said Sir Geoffrey Howe, the foreign secretary.

erm

abit like tony blair and Iraq

at least maggie had balls unlike the most wealthy labour leader in history
 








vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
No sign of that from the emergency parliamentary debate.

'You have been an obedient poodle to the American president,' said Denis Healey, Labor foreign affairs spokesman. Accusations of 'lack of grit' 'fecklessness' and 'flaccid indolence' rolled from the verbal pugilist.

The Conservative response was muted. American consultation with Britain over the Grenada invasion was 'regrettably less than we could have wished,' said Sir Geoffrey Howe, the foreign secretary.

She was probably too busy in sending the SAS to train Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge to help them get on with genocide.

The Americans saw it as the only chance they had to bag a few Cubans, Clint even got in on the act....http://watchdownload.com/covers/movie233302.jpg
 




LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
If the lefties on here want a Latin American leader to look up to and have as a poster boy then really they need to be looking at ex-Uruguayan President Jose Murica. His credentials are impeccable, ex-guerilla leader imprisoned for 13 years after an attempted takeover of a town where his was the only unit of 6 to succeed with his given objective. When elected his first speech was completely conciliatory and he called for unity saying that there would be no winners or losers "it is a mistake to think that power comes from above when it comes from within the hearts of the masses. It has taken me a lifetime to learn this".

And when in office he was dubbed the poorest world leader, humblest politician etc etc. He was well-deserving of the titles plaudits too. He continued to live in his wife's ramshackle farm rather than the palace, his only possession was a beaten up old car and when he was offered $1M for it he donated the money to charity. A BBC journalist wrote "Mujica left office with a relatively healthy economy and with social stability those bigger neighbours could only dream of."

Now there's a left-winger we can all get behind.
First sensible post on this thread. Chapeau sir.
 






colinz

Banned
Oct 17, 2010
862
Auckland


Cuba sort of reminds me of Greece without the debt.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
RIP to a political Icon. He will have alienated and inspired in equal measure over his lifetime with as many critics as supporters. Such is the way with people who are in power in " Interesting Times" . Still he must go down in history as the only national leader the U.S. Government was unable to coerce,bribe,assassinate or remove from power. That must irk them !

The critics in Cuba were in prison and/or faced the firing squads. The US government couldn't do anything because Cuba was being bankrolled by the Russians much the same way as Assad is in Syria right now.
 


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