[Travel] FFS More train disruptions announced for July 2 - 8

[Randy McNob]

Don’t forget they’ll have to pay for train or bus fares to get to the food banks, travel for the drivers and partners isn’t free you know…

Train fares continually rise making this sort of travel very expensive for someone on 60k pa

 

[Springal]

From past experience how did the ASLEF strikes affect Southern ? Partial service from West Coastway or none ?

 

[Weststander]

Yep. You can’t move in food banks for the families of starving train drivers on 60k

They’re already paid double the UK median salary, also far and away the highest paid train drivers in Europe.

 

[Randy McNob]

They’re already paid double the UK median salary, also far and away the highest paid train drivers in Europe.

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Shows that industrial action works then

 

[Binney on acid]

Try telling that to someone that needs to use the train to attend a dialysis appointment, or a cancer patient.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Don’t forget they’ll have to pay for train or bus fares to get to the food banks, travel for the drivers and partners isn’t free you know…

Train fares continually rise making this sort of travel very expensive for someone on 60k pa

If you can’t survive on £60k then God help everybody.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

I would rather the disgusting profits these TOCs make each year go towards funding a pay rise in-line with inflation for drivers than given as millions of pounds of bonuses for shareholders.

 

[Chicken Run]

If you can’t survive on £60k then God help everybody.

Yeah but remember they have to pay for travel on trains for them and their spouses out of that..

 

[Chicken Run]

I would rather the disgusting profits these TOCs make each year go towards funding a pay rise in-line with inflation for drivers than given as millions of pounds of bonuses for shareholders.

I think I speak for many when I say I’d rather they used the profits to fund subsidised travel for the people !

 

[Chicken Run]

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[Weststander]

I would rather the disgusting profits these TOCs make each year go towards funding a pay rise in-line with inflation for drivers than given as millions of pounds of bonuses for shareholders.

Pre tax profits have been £310m in total in the last three years (sauce: The RMT), on industry income of circa £60b (two thirds of that comes from government, not tickets). Or 0.5%.

I’d rather the cleaners and other staff on awful new contracts got significant pay rises, not drivers on £60k.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Pre tax profits have been £310m in total in the last three years (sauce: The RMT), on industry income of circa £60b (two thirds of that comes from government, not tickets). Or 0.5%.

I’d rather the cleaners and other staff on awful new contracts got significant pay rises, not drivers on £60k.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Yeah but remember they have to pay for travel on trains for them and their spouses out of that..

And?

Or have I been whooshed!

 

[Chicken Run]

And?

Or have I been whooshed!

 

[Weststander]

The two are not mutually exclusive.

They can be. ASLEF are demanding 10%, train drivers are not a role that has suffered real term cuts, R4 proved that in an interview with Whelan. Entitled by demanding/striking real term pay rises through economic cycles.

ASLEF can take the £5,000 rise offered over two years.

Separate to that the operators should deal with the lower paid.

 

[Randy McNob]

These threads always descend into race to the bottom and never fat cat bosses or the government who by the way use your taxpayer money to subsidise their profits

 

[Rogero]

Train drivers are on huge money anyway . It is harder to drive a car . At least you have to steer a car .

 

[Randy McNob]

Train drivers are on huge money anyway . It is harder to drive a car . At least you have to steer a car .

Would you prefer the train you are travelling is driven by a highly trained well renumerated expert or some numpty on minimum wage?

Food for thought: Croydon Tramlink drivers are paid far less.

Ithink we should concentrate on the reasoning behind why we think other people should be paid less?

 

[CHAPPERS]

Union fury as figures show pay rises among top earners driving inflation

The best paid have had the highest wage hikes, but the majority of the workforce has seen salary growth fall, according to ONS data

www.theguardian.com

Pay rises for the top 10% of UK earners, including City bosses, have clearly outstripped those for the rest of the workforce and been prime drivers of recent inflation and soaring interest rates, according to new analysis of official figures.

After a week that saw interest rates rise for the 13th consecutive time, by 0.5 percentage points, to their highest level level since 2008, the Bank of England’s governor, Andrew Bailey, angered union leaders by appearing to blame low and middle earners for wage demands that had fuelled the crisis…

By contrast, those who are paid £59,000 a year saw the rate of their wage rises fall from 7.2% to 5.5% a year, while workers receiving £26,300 a year saw an even bigger fall in annual wage rises, from 9.5% in January to 4.7% in April.

 

[nordicgod]

It’s an overtime ban , if the train companies actually recruited enough train drivers you would not notice any difference , but as they run a service with not enough staff they rely on drivers to work extra rest days to cover shifts .TBH After 7 days on the trot getting up at 2am for early turns and still getting enough sleep to concentrate for 2 1/2hrs to 5hrs at a time so you don’t kill thousands of people it’s nice to actually have a rest day off and be able to have a drink relax and spend time with the family as you need sleep and cannot have beer with less than 12hrs to start of shift then after 2 days off to do 7 late turns finishing at 2or 3 am and on top of that you have night shifts every other late turn so every 6 weeks)but all they do is push buttons and don’t even steer so that’s alright then don’t know many that live past 70 due to the shift pattern and that’s why they are paid the money