FFs Barnes

[Kneon Light]

Couldnt disagree more with people saying he was poor. First half there was a time when he was back in his own box heading 3 successive crosses away. Next minute he was upfront setting up a chance for CMS. He always offered an out ball for the midfielders and for me was a contender (like so many others) for man of the match

 

[Reinelt12]

No not thread closed. Your acting like someone who just looks at BBC website and says 'oh barnes scored two goals, must be an ok player'. The fact is the first 65 minutes it was like we were playing with ten men and after his goal he only improved slightly. As for the guy saying "fishing", it's not fishing, it's an opinion that has lots of foundation.

This is what i said after Hull on Weds - and it is still true now...

Do you guys who like knocking Barnes every single week not think that actually he has a specific job to do, and there isn't another player in the squad who could actually do that job to the same standard? (Poyet even said exactly that in the post match interview tonight)

He is the Bridcutt equivalent further up the pitch, Gus picks him because he makes the whole make up of the side more solid, links up play between midfield and attack, defends from the front (and in his own penalty area quite a lot) and can also score goals... he is a major reason why we don't concede many goals.

I don't believe anyone sees him scoring 2 goals on the BBC site and thinks he had a good game, what I believe is that the people who appreciate everything he does, defensively and offensively see why he is so important to our side...

 

[GloryDays]

Two goals. Thread closed.

Totally. Get off his case. WIN!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Can't tell if that was taking the piss, but yes I agree.

We get it. You don't like Barnes. That's up to you. Having got that across, it'd be good if you can leave the thread alone now so the rest of us, who judge a player on his overall performance not some lazy preconception that he's automatically going to be shit at all times, can have a debate about his good performance today.

Thanks.

 

[Beach Hut]

Couldnt disagree more with people saying he was poor. First half there was a time when he was back in his own box heading 3 successive crosses away. Next minute he was upfront setting up a chance for CMS. He always offered an out ball for the midfielders and for me was a contender (like so many others) for man of the match

Indeed that was the Barnes I saw as well however facts clearly cloud judgements at times

 

[chucky1973]

he was the weakest player out there for us today prior to scoring, he goes down so easy so many times when in good positions, and that frustrates me so much, but he works very hard, and took his goals very well, so fair play to him.. Would I have in my "starting 11". the simple answer is No as there is better in the squad. But hats off to him today. Gus has faith in him and i suppose thats all that matters

 

[GloryDays]

Cor, this is getting meaty!...

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

We get it. You don't like Barnes. That's up to you. Having got that across, it'd be good if you can leave the thread alone now so the rest of us, who judge a player on his overall performance not some lazy preconception that he's automatically going to be shit at all times, can have a debate about his good performance today.

Thanks.

This.

His first touch was poor at times. HOWEVER, defensively outstanding and 2 great finishes, doing a great job for the team

 

[Diego Napier]

We get it. You don't like Barnes. That's up to you. Having got that across, it'd be good if you can leave the thread alone now so the rest of us, who judge a player on his overall performance not some lazy preconception that he's automatically going to be shit at all times, can have a debate about his good performance today.

Thanks.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

We get it. You don't like Barnes. That's up to you. Having got that across, it'd be good if you can leave the thread alone now so the rest of us, who judge a player on his overall performance not some lazy preconception that he's automatically going to be shit at all times, can have a debate about his good performance today.

Thanks.

I was judging on his performance. I just think he's got away with one today scoring two goals. If he didn't everyone would be on his back. Two goals don't change his overall performance IMO, especially in the first half where he was poor. Brighton fans just seem too bandwagony. If your opinion doesn't conform with what everyone thinks it's 'wrong'. I can say what I like, free forum. If people don't want to hear my drivel on though i'm going to stop because there's no point banging on, but FWIW Gus was about to take him off before he scored his first goal. If he was playing so well I wonder why he was about to get subbed.

 

[crasher]

This is what i said after Hull on Weds - and it is still true now...

Do you guys who like knocking Barnes every single week not think that actually he has a specific job to do, and there isn't another player in the squad who could actually do that job to the same standard? (Poyet even said exactly that in the post match interview tonight)

He is the Bridcutt equivalent further up the pitch, Gus picks him because he makes the whole make up of the side more solid, links up play between midfield and attack, defends from the front (and in his own penalty area quite a lot) and can also score goals... he is a major reason why we don't concede many goals.

I don't believe anyone sees him scoring 2 goals on the BBC site and thinks he had a good game, what I believe is that the people who appreciate everything he does, defensively and offensively see why he is so important to our side...

Perfectly summarised.

 

[terryberry1]

Never really been a Barnes Basher, He is not the most gifted player in the world but he does a job.

 

[Triggaaar]

Tbh Barnes was abyssmal overall, yet took his goals really well so cant complain I guess

Apart from the two goals, Barnes was poor.

I disagree. He wasn't as good as Rasak, but that goes for everyone else too. Without the goals, Barnes had a fair game. With them, he had a fantastic game.

 

[DumLum]

No not thread closed. Your acting like someone who just looks at BBC website and says 'oh barnes scored two goals, must be an ok player'. The fact is the first 65 minutes it was like we were playing with ten men and after his goal he only improved slightly. As for the guy saying "fishing", it's not fishing, it's an opinion that has lots of foundation.

I agree.

I made a point of watching Barnes very closley today as apparantly I have been missing all the vital work he does.

The only positive contributions he made were inside our own box. He made back to back clearances with his head and one fine tackle in a very dangerous situation. However, outside our penalty area I thought he was the weakest player on the pitch by far before his two goals. Lots of moves broke down because of him due to his miss-control and poor passing.

He took his goals very well but for me there were many more important performances today.

El-Abd seemed to block every shot Ipswich had. There was one point at the end of the game where it looked like Ipswich had a one on one with Brez and El-Abd must have appeared out of a hatch in the six yard box to block the shot?

CMS running and skill caused them big problems.

The man of the match Razak. The best passing I have seen at the amex so far.

 

[crasher]

The only positive contributions he made were inside our own box. .

Riiiiight, so scoring goals is not a positive contribution?
Or actually someone else disguised as Barnes scored those goals?

 

[Triggaaar]

Would I have in my "starting 11". the simple answer is No as there is better in the squad.

No disrespect at all chuck, but would we be in the top half of the Championship if you picked our starting 11 - the simple answer is no.

 

[CliveWalkerWingWizard]

This is what i said after Hull on Weds - and it is still true now...

Do you guys who like knocking Barnes every single week not think that actually he has a specific job to do, and there isn't another player in the squad who could actually do that job to the same standard? (Poyet even said exactly that in the post match interview tonight)

He is the Bridcutt equivalent further up the pitch, Gus picks him because he makes the whole make up of the side more solid, links up play between midfield and attack, defends from the front (and in his own penalty area quite a lot) and can also score goals... he is a major reason why we don't concede many goals.

I don't believe anyone sees him scoring 2 goals on the BBC site and thinks he had a good game, what I believe is that the people who appreciate everything he does, defensively and offensively see why he is so important to our side...

Totally agree, I would like to see 2 wingers but gus has a way of playing and barnes fits perfectly into that.

 

[JCL666]

FFS

Barnes was great today. Put in a good defensive shift, scored two goals, one of which was an absolute CRACKER.

Still people moan. Thank f*** they have no say whatsoever in picking the team. If you cannot understand what he brings to the team then quite frankly YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

 

[chucky1973]

No disrespect at all chuck, but would we be in the top half of the Championship if you picked our starting 11 - the simple answer is no.

I agree, but with the attacking team I would pick we would have scored 180 goals so far this season...........but let in 175!!! but it would have been exciting!!

 

[00snook]

Apart from the two goals, Barnes was poor.

Right. So we don't need goals?

He scored two goals, held the ball up well, tackled back and was positive in his passing.

Granted his balls in the final 3rd aren't perfect, but he had a good game.