[News] Feral Children - what to do?

[Popeye]

Have more community based programs to give these young people an outlet to better themselves and to feel better mentally, emotionally, etc. I am in the firm belief that a lot of this behavior is simply due to a shit home life. I used to work with at risk youth, and due to them being abused at home, they then started abusing others to take away some of their pain and give them that sense of power over somebody they would never get at home. Not an excuse for these horrible acts of course, just saying it is probably a big reason for them.

All well and good just to say, let's lock them up and throw away the key, etc. However, when they get out they will just more than likely repeat their acts. Parents should be held accountable for their actions more than they are for sure. Yeah police can do a better job of controlling these acts, but their power is limited in a sense. Of course, ****ing social media doesn't help either.

And lastly and to be blunt, most youth in today's society simply don't care and know that really their is only so much we can do to them.

 

[Baldseagull]

Are you then saying it should have been resolved 20 years ago? Or take action now to prevent another 20years of? Or take no action because eg kids will be kids?

It’s difficult to answer. But really it’s a society problem because we all lose. We can’t go backwards to corporal punishment and Borstals. But what’s the way forward? I’d say a fair percentage of parents - perhaps some on here - have lost,, or aren’t interested in, control at home, never mind out of.

I honestly believe that the "restorative justice" approach should be used in schools, i.e. the kids that do this sit with their parents and listen to a victim tell them how they felt. It isn't always going to be possible, the victim has to be willing to do it, but it is quite effective when it can be done, and can help the victim get past it if they can see sincere remorse.

 

[GT49er]

Blame them would stop the problem how?

They werent born that way, they learned it somehow... its a societal issue and cant be solved by blaming individuals.

Boolocks. Their parents might be total bad-parenting scum (i'm not accusing them - hence I said 'might')....... but do you seriously think some of the adults they have encountered - their teachers maybe -might never have mentioned that trying to kill a smaller child might just be a tad naughty? Go and roll another pizza! Of course they knew it was wrong - and they thought they could get away with it.
Seems they were right about that bit anyway.

 

[portlock seagull]

I honestly believe that the "restorative justice" approach should be used in schools, i.e. the kids that do this sit with their parents and listen to a victim tell them how they felt. It isn't always going to be possible, the victim has to be willing to do it, but it is quite effective when it can be done, and can help the victim get past it if they can see sincere remorse.

Really like that idea, totally forgotten about in truth. I guess it depends on how broken the perpetrator is to begin with and victim post incident as to whether it works.

 

[Easy 10]

The parents need to be held ultimately accountable. If you have brought up a child who thinks that repeatably booting someone else in the head in is in any way normal or acceptable, then that needs direct intervention with corrective measures on the child and parent.

Its absolutely mindboggling that the police will ONLY get involved if these assaults result in brain damage or serious head trauma. I mean.....wtf ??

 

[wellquickwoody]

Once again you’ve added your own interpretive hyperbole to the thread title. Feral literally means “in a wild state”. This is a bunch of twats doing bullying for online likes.

The police need to sort it out but they’re criminally under funded and having to recruit sub standard cadets. Blame the government. New Labour are the only government to have matched their crime rhetoric to action. Truss couldn’t give a Donald Duck.

So it is one individual politician who is to blame? Not a general lack of community spirit (for whatever reason), or a society that expects everything to be done for them (parents expectations of teachers), or a general lack of moral fibre to do something about the problem, or a police force (underfunded yes) which probably puts a higher priority onto issues that meet the demands of media savvy campaigners. You think it OK to sit back in your armchair and blame a politician who may have never even been to that town?

Pathetic.

 

[BadFish]

So it is one individual politician who is to blame? Not a general lack of community spirit (for whatever reason), or a society that expects everything to be done for them (parents expectations of teachers), or a general lack of moral fibre to do something about the problem, or a police force (underfunded yes) which probably puts a higher priority onto issues that meet the demands of media savvy campaigners. You think it OK to sit back in your armchair and blame a politician who may have never even been to that town?

Pathetic.

Quite right, I blame all of the politicians, a total lack of moral fibre to do the right things to provide a culture where positive and supportive society can thrive. Consistent underfunding of services for people and decisive rhetoric around to his to fracture a country through its heart.

Of course it isn't her fault but she is now in a position to make decisions to fix the mess left behind by her predecessors.

Will she? No of course not, she will continue to represent the same interests as her predecessors (which is how I took GBs point).

Still she doesn't need to as people will continue to vote for the interests of the few over the interests of the many.

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[BadFish]

https://institute.global/policy/reb...ts-time-put-anti-social-behaviour-back-agenda

I know that this will get flamed because it is linked to Blair but removing the war criminal thing, it makes some interesting points.

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[Tyrone Biggums]

Same as feral cats. Shoot em.

 

[Guinness Boy]

So it is one individual politician who is to blame? Not a general lack of community spirit (for whatever reason), or a society that expects everything to be done for them (parents expectations of teachers), or a general lack of moral fibre to do something about the problem, or a police force (underfunded yes) which probably puts a higher priority onto issues that meet the demands of media savvy campaigners. You think it OK to sit back in your armchair and blame a politician who may have never even been to that town?

Pathetic.

Twelve years of Tory government has removed the moral fibre from Britain but it's not surprising you haven't noticed from Melbourne.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

The parents need to be held ultimately accountable. If you have brought up a child who thinks that repeatably booting someone else in the head in is in any way normal or acceptable, then that needs direct intervention with corrective measures on the child and parent.

Its absolutely mindboggling that the police will ONLY get involved if these assaults result in brain damage or serious head trauma. I mean.....wtf ??

Sometimes. Not always. It’s often peer pressure. When you speak to the parents they tend to be decent and supportive. There are also many many kids from difficult backgrounds who never get into any trouble.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Too many parents try to be friends with their offspring rather than parents. When both parents are out at work all day, return home tired, it’s easier to indulge the kids rather than taking time to talk through issues.
It’s hard work being a parent, and no parent gets it right all the time. Looking back, I was too strict with my kids but thankfully they’ve turned out ok.

There will always be rebellious youngsters, but it’s now easier to follow the crowd, than to stand up and say this is wrong.

 

[zefarelly]

Should have boot camps for kids who do it really. Like they have in the U.S.

They used to have them here . . Then into the army. . .

 

[Hamilton]

Looks like one girl in two of the films, so clearly she needs to be dealt with as she's getting a taste for it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Twelve years of Tory government has removed the moral fibre from Britain but it's not surprising you haven't noticed from Melbourne.

 

[BBassic]

There have always been, and there will always be, violent anti-social types. Always.

You'll never eradicate it.

Couple that with 12 years of cuts to police, justice, social services, mental health services (and on and on and on) and it's only going to get worse.

 

[BBassic]

Boolocks. Their parents might be total bad-parenting scum (i'm not accusing them - hence I said 'might')....... but do you seriously think some of the adults they have encountered - their teachers maybe -might never have mentioned that trying to kill a smaller child might just be a tad naughty? Go and roll another pizza! Of course they knew it was wrong - and they thought they could get away with it.
Seems they were right about that bit anyway.

I don't think that Swanny literally meant "they learnt how to kick children in the head from their parents".

My other half works in adolescent mental health. The amount of violent children who come from violent or broken or otherwise negligent homes isn't a coincidence.

 

[Questions]

Off with their goollies…. Straight off.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Quite right, I blame all of the politicians, a total lack of moral fibre to do the right things to provide a culture where positive and supportive society can thrive. Consistent underfunding of services for people and decisive rhetoric around to his to fracture a country through its heart.

Of course it isn't her fault but she is now in a position to make decisions to fix the mess left behind by her predecessors.

Will she? No of course not, she will continue to represent the same interests as her predecessors (which is how I took GBs point).

Still she doesn't need to as people will continue to vote for the interests of the few over the interests of the many.

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This. The government are ultimately accountable for the country and society. They set the tone, set the rules, put the societal fabric and services in place (or dont as is the current case) and lead by example. This is how I took GB's post, and why I disagree with WQW.

 

[The Clamp]

STEP 2
Heat oven to 150C/130C fan/gas 2. Transfer the child, skin-side up, to a deep roasting tin, rub 1 tbsp sea salt onto the skin and pour 500ml water into the bottom of the roasting tin. Cover tightly with foil and roast in the oven for 5 hrs.

No, wait. That’s pork.