February election

[Bluejuice]

But chicken run, you seem to have missed the point. It's a frighteningly one horse race in Britain at the moment because the opposition to our supposedly centre left government is next to nothing. When Labour seized power back in 97 they shifted focus so close to the centre (and some would argue even over to the right in many respects) that the only room for manouvre from the opposing parties was to further extremes. The Tories have had to try and focus on more right wing issues at the risk of seeming xenophobic and even racist just to appear to have a political leaning of any validity. Their failure to pull this off has lead to minority parties (UKIP in particular) taking manifestly Conservative policies and campaigning in the right places with them whilst Hague, IDS and now Howard dither on how far they should go, winning over nobody.

I don't like the fact that Blair and his cronies, despite massive unpopularity over the war in Iraq and various other issues (such as top up fees), have pretty much free-reign over our country at the moment. But until the blues and the yellows can organise themselves and work out what they actually want to be, what choice do we have?

The plain and simple truth is that there is currently no other party in Britain capable of running the country.

I think we will see another record low turnout come May - which by the way is when the election will go ahead, and I only hope it will kick the Tories into action over forming a realistic opposition to our Labour government.

How long though before the Lib Dems emerge as the second party in Britain? As long as Norman Baker is representative of their party I hope never. But I wouldn't bet against it being truth within 10-15 years

 

[Bluejuice]

...(how do I say this ) Offendinding somone.

I believe you say it "offending someone", if indeed this is what you were attempting to say

 

[Chicken Run]

I believe you say it "offending someone", if indeed this is what you were attempting to say

Blimy u only just noticed that, by the way IMHO the name of the "yellows" would have changed twice b4 they are the second party.

 

[Saint Lennard]

Would this be a good thing?

Of course with the excellent contigency planning of Mr Perry this scenario has been covered. So has a hung-parliament scenario. That man is brilliant. He laugghs in the face of a Plan B.

 

[looney]

The plain and simple truth is that there is currently no other party in Britain capable of running the country.

That is your opinion not fact. even though I dont like Howard he wouldn't necessarily do a bad job. Leaders aside I think there are more clowns in the Cabinet than the shadow cabinet. but this is more perception.



How long though before the Lib Dems emerge as the second party in Britain? As long as Norman Baker is representative of their party I hope never. But I wouldn't bet against it being truth within 10-15 years

This seems to be a favourite leftwing fantasy. All evidence I have seen seems to suggest that 2 rightwing parties one and two are viable not two left. The lib dems have placed themselves to the left of labour so whats to stop them replacing labour. Also one reason for labours wins is that 3million tory voters havn't voted since 1992, more pronounced than the swing to labour. If they come back?

A couple of points you should be warey of...

Polls
These have a pronounced leftwing bias. In the US election Gallup was calling it for Kerry by 2 and a half points on exit polls.

The media is seriously leftwing, which affects there interpretation of situations. ie
Remember how "split" the last Tory Government was? Do you see how Unsplit this labour one is?

Having said that I think that labour may sneek home but a lot can change between now and polling day. Possible bombings etc.

And if Liberals make gains its going to be mainly at the expense of labour IMO.

 

[Chicken Run]

That is your opinion not fact. even though I dont like Howard he wouldn't necessarily do a bad job. Leaders aside I think there are more clowns in the Cabinet than the shadow cabinet. but this is more perception.



How long though before the Lib Dems emerge as the second party in Britain? As long as Norman Baker is representative of their party I hope never. But I wouldn't bet against it being truth within 10-15 years

This seems to be a favourite leftwing fantasy. All evidence I have seen seems to suggest that 2 rightwing parties one and two are viable not two left. The lib dems have placed themselves to the left of labour so whats to stop them replacing labour. Also one reason for labours wins is that 3million tory voters havn't voted since 1992, more pronounced than the swing to labour. If they come back?

A couple of points you should be warey of...

Polls
These have a pronounced leftwing bias. In the US election Gallup was calling it for Kerry by 2 and a half points on exit polls.

The media is seriously leftwing, which affects there interpretation of situations. ie
Remember how "split" the last Tory Government was? Do you see how Unsplit this labour one is?

Having said that I think that labour may sneek home but a lot can change between now and polling day. Possible bombings etc.

And if Liberals make gains its going to be mainly at the expense of labour IMO.

Sense at last well put

 

[looney]

I know CR but cue the bitching and snearing when the NSC commies have their reality bubbles pricked.

 

[Chicken Run]

I know CR but cue the bitching and snearing when the NSC commies have their reality bubbles pricked.

I'm looking forward to the day