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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,706
The Fatherland
At least he's moved on to CDs
The guy is hopeless at mixing, instead he just turns up the bass or cuts the treble on tracks.
Still a legend though and can entertain a crowd.

I think he uses Serato so he's moved on even further.
 




Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
"Dance" music is shit. It's just 1980s Europop rebranded for the 21st Century Ibiza generation.

Now, House music (in it's various forms) on the other hand......

House is a feeling. For those that know & can make that distinction.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,348
"Dance" music is shit. It's just 1980s Europop rebranded for the 21st Century Ibiza generation.

Now, House music (in it's various forms) on the other hand......

House is a feeling. For those that know & can make that distinction.

It's all just arbitrary categories.

Anybody with any kind of soul can tune in and turn on to a beautiful sunset with a chilled tune with or without a beer.

After dark, in a big meat market, without a pilll? Have me doubts, to be honest.
 


AmexRuislip

Retired Spy 🕵️‍♂️
Feb 2, 2014
34,772
Ruislip
"Dance" music is shit. It's just 1980s Europop rebranded for the 21st Century Ibiza generation.

Now, House music (in it's various forms) on the other hand......

House is a feeling. For those that know & can make that distinction.

Dance music is a description that, I guess dance music stations categorise as.
Each have their own 'specialist dj's' for each genre.
I myself used to follow garage house music, mainly white label stuff from NY, which I used to get on import when available.
Sadly all gone now, reliant too much on iTunes.
Instead of stating that its for those in the know and CAN make the distinction, perhaps extra knowledge on NSC wouldn't hurt?
:thumbsup:
 


Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
Glad that sparked some debate! ��

Think Tom Hark hit the nail on the head when he mentioned soul. I agree that, a tune might be considered.as techno, garage, house, deep house, Balearic or ambient, but it needs to have that soul & feeling.

I was lucky enough to ride the crest of the first wave, with acid house, no formulaic music, no real big name DJs. So perhaps I'm spoilt? But don't forget that this overlapped with the SAW domination. And, for me, there is a helluva lot of dance music that is reminiscent of the SAW formula.

Another good example is the recent focus on "Deep House", which I'd seen marketed as a new phenomenon. Again, it just felt like a few artists had unearthed some Larry Heard / Mr Fingers tracks and regurgitated them.

I'm laissez faire about life and each to their own, unless they step on people's toes. Same with music. Whatever pulls your chain I suppose. But it frustrates when there are DJs (who can actually mix) and producers who make incredible music but perhaps don't get the recognition they deserve. More importantly, there could be missed opportunities for people who may actually fall in love with other variations, but are constantly swamped by the proliferation of similar music.

With no arrogance intended, I count myself genuinely lucky to have been involved with the last major musical revolution since punk.
 






Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
There is hope though...

There's a couple of young and very talented local producers who have just got some tracks licensed and published. Worth checking them out...DJ Safeword & Tech Support (Brighton & Hurstpierpoint respectively).
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Glad that sparked some debate! ��

Think Tom Hark hit the nail on the head when he mentioned soul. I agree that, a tune might be considered.as techno, garage, house, deep house, Balearic or ambient, but it needs to have that soul & feeling.

I was lucky enough to ride the crest of the first wave, with acid house, no formulaic music, no real big name DJs. So perhaps I'm spoilt? But don't forget that this overlapped with the SAW domination. And, for me, there is a helluva lot of dance music that is reminiscent of the SAW formula.

Another good example is the recent focus on "Deep House", which I'd seen marketed as a new phenomenon. Again, it just felt like a few artists had unearthed some Larry Heard / Mr Fingers tracks and regurgitated them.

I'm laissez faire about life and each to their own, unless they step on people's toes. Same with music. Whatever pulls your chain I suppose. But it frustrates when there are DJs (who can actually mix) and producers who make incredible music but perhaps don't get the recognition they deserve. More importantly, there could be missed opportunities for people who may actually fall in love with other variations, but are constantly swamped by the proliferation of similar music.

With no arrogance intended, I count myself genuinely lucky to have been involved with the last major musical revolution since punk.

"More importantly, there could be missed opportunities for people who may actually fall in love with other variations, but are constantly swamped by the proliferation of similar music." - I hear what you're saying. I just hope that interest in one genre or sub-genre leads people down different paths, or encourages them to seek out other types, and sustains a longer and deeper interest in music. This has certainly been the case for me and my friends.
 




Randsta

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Aug 8, 2011
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Eastbourne
I think that the "art" of Djing in lost on 99% of people especially at a festival, people want to hear big tunes and see the DJ jumping around like a loon!!! Fatboy slim is a good Dj at this and if you see him play in a club he would play a different kind of set depending where he's playing. I believe there were other tents that had more underground vibes going on away from the main stage / main stream
 


Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
"More importantly, there could be missed opportunities for people who may actually fall in love with other variations, but are constantly swamped by the proliferation of similar music." - I hear what you're saying. I just hope that interest in one genre or sub-genre leads people down different paths, or encourages them to seek out other types, and sustains a longer and deeper interest in music. This has certainly been the case for me and my friends.

I guess that's the key. Back when I first got exposed to this new "acid house" stuff, there weren't really any established sub-genres. Carl Cox on 3 decks down the Escape on a Thursday night, Coco Club down the Zap on a Saturday, even Rage @ Heaven with Fabio & Grooverider played a real mix of tunes that now would be categorised as house, techno, breakbeat. So you were able to dance to a real mix of music and, with it, experience the different emotions they bring.

I remember Chris Coco starting the night with Soul II Soul Keep On Moving and The Grid Floatation, before playing Kym Mazelle Was That All It Was next to System by Force Legato!

As the scene started to split, it allowed me and my mates to decide who to listen to, as the chances of going to a night which played the same breadth of music dwindled.
 


Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
I think that the "art" of Djing in lost on 99% of people especially at a festival, people want to hear big tunes and see the DJ jumping around like a loon!!! Fatboy slim is a good Dj at this and if you see him play in a club he would play a different kind of set depending where he's playing. I believe there were other tents that had more underground vibes going on away from the main stage / main stream

Think you're right. The introduction of CDJ kit and laptops makes it far more accessible. But at least with the CDJ kit, there was a need for the DJ to select the tunes and a flexibility to change direction based on the mood of the crowd. For me, the use of laptops & USB sticks suggests pre-programming and no spontaneity. I've heard of some "big name" DJs being kicked out of reputable clubs and told they won't be booked again for doing this.

Since my clubbing days, it does feel like there's a shift from going out every week (often travelling across the country) to saving for less frequent festivals like Gottswood, Wildlife etc. I get what you mean by the "show" of a festival set versus the more intimate and more intense atmosphere of a club. Though I remember being lucky enough to be the only person on stage with Andy Weatherall at Phoenix Festival in 94....and all he had was 2 decks, his record box and a cool box full of beer!! No big DJ booth, no big screen ��. How times change!
 




Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,785
GOSBTS
Serato / USB / CD / Vinyl are all just different mediums. You could argue by using USB you can be more versatile than vinyl or CDs as you can carry more music on you. Using USB isn't any indication of pre programmed, or planned. It's just a way of carrying music.

Norm has always been a crowd pleaser rather than 'credible' but fair play to him he sticks to his own style and it works.
 








Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
Blimey this thread has disappeared up its own A-hole. Fwiw Fat Boys boiler room set was cracking recently and certainly not EDM. Guess he plays to his audience.


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Barnet Seagull

Luxury Player
Jul 14, 2003
5,983
Falmer, soon...
Well, I saw him at Amnesia on Thursday night. Wasn't for me as it was a bit slow but lots of people enjoyed it. Paul Van Dyk's set on the other hand was top notch - but that's my taste!
 








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