Fat American goons in motorcycle helmets ruin Wembley pitch

[Frutos]

Please read that back.

A friend of yours who was watching on TELLY says that Wembley SUCKS even though he wasn't there? What gives him his 'INFORMED OPINION' might I ask, simply the fact that he's American?

My apologies, I should have put 'informed opinion' in inverted commas to show that I didn't and don't consider his opinion on this matter to be informed in any way whatsoever.

I haven't yest ascertained what his exact grounds are/were for making his comment.

 

[Storer68]

Look last nigt was bollocks

NLF attracts 81,000 to Wembley

You can't even out attract a match at Wembley between Wycombe Wanders and Bishop Auckland in the the 1957 FA Amateur Cup. Attendance 90,000

Wycombe Wanderers v Bishop Auckland
FA Amateur Cup Final - Saturday 13th April 1957
This was The Wanderers first ever visit to Wembley Stadium. Cheered by an estimated 30,000 fans in a 90,000 crowd, the Wanderers did their utmost to "Bash the Bishops" but were eventually overcome by 3 goals to 1. Wycombe were making only their second appearance in the Amateur Cup Final having beaten Hayes 1-0 in the Final at Highbury in 1931. On the other hand it was the Bishops 18th appearance in the Final and their 6th at Wembley in 8 seasons - the triumph over Wycombe completing a record breaking hat-trick of Wembley victories.
With both clubs having a combination of Oxford and Cambridge blue in their strip - Bishop Auckland used halves while the Wanderers were in their 30th consecutive season of wearing quarters - it was decided that both teams changed. Wycombe chose a combination of red shirts and white shorts, while the Bishops wore white shirts with dark blue shorts. The TV cameras were there too with Kenneth Wolstenholme commentating. Billy Russell, making his Amateur Cup debut for the Bishops, opened the scoring midway through the first half following a mistake from 19 year old Len Worley. A massive roar greeted the Wycombe equaliser from Frank Smith on 38 minutes after he had connected with a Geoff Truett pass. But the Wanderers' fans were soon silenced as Bishops regained their lead two minutes later through Derek Lewin. A second-half goal by Warren Bradley with 18 minutes left on the clock sealed the game for the northerners as they cruised to victory. In the dying moments Auckland apparently indulged in the luxury of trying to set-up the legendary Bob Hardisty with a goal as it was thought that this was going to be his last game for the Club.
But Wycombe were not disgraced and were welcomed home by nearly 10,000 people in High Wycombe town centre on their return on Saturday evening. They also went on to win the Isthmian League title for the second consecutive season, pipping Woking by one point after winning their last game of the season 3-2 against Corinthian Casuals.
For the Bishops it was to be their last ever appearance in an Amateur Cup final as an era came to an end for the County Durham side. It was also to be another 34 years before Wycombe reached Wembley again when Martin O'Neill started a sequence of three successful visits in four seasons.
Wycombe Team: Dennis Syrett, Freddy Lawson, Frank Westley, Geoff Truett, Michael Wicks, Jimmy Truett, Len Worley, Cliff Trott, Paul Bates, Jackie Tomlin, Frank Smith
Bishops Team: Harry Sharratt, Dave Marshall, Bert Childs, Bobby Thursby, Corbett Cresswell, Jim Nimmins, Warren Bradley, Derek Lewin, Billy Russell, Bob Hardisty, Benny Edwards.
Attendance: 90,000 Receipts: £28,113 plus £2,000 TV rights. Each club received £3,873-16-10d

 

[chez]

I would rather shoot myself than sit in the Giants area though bud. Still looks like my boys are going to make the superbowl along with those darn patriots

OUR team mate!

Patriots looked excellent against The Cowboys the other week & The Redskins yesterday. Cant see us turning the tables on them in The Superbowl.

BTW, looks like I could be getting tickets for the Superbash!!!!

 

[ATFC Seagull]

OUR team mate!

Patriots looked excellent against The Cowboys the other week & The Redskins yesterday. Cant see us turning the tables on them in The Superbowl.

BTW, looks like I could be getting tickets for the Superbash!!!!

How do you get tickets for that? I thought it was just for people that won them off Skysports?! Not that I would particularly want to have my superbowl ruined by a bunch of idiots just there for a piss up...

 

[Chicken Run]

well to continue the debate I was at the game last night, having followed AF through the eighties on 4 and indeed our own B52's (trying out for them too) I left at half time, sooooo boring didnt even get to see the streaker, best part for me was The Feeling and the UK national anthem, honest me and the gf thought a decent bottle of red back at the quality inn was a better bet, wont be going live anytime soon, on a lighter note this was our wembley debut, stunning is all i can say, one thing why didnt they have full size retracteble roof?

 

[Tim]

I went yesterday and thought it was class! It was a shame the game wasnt the best of games but the cheerleaders made up for that!

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Does anyone seem to understand that that the primary reason the NFL came here was because we wanted them to, and launched a massive campaign to bid for this match?

I'm sorry but that's absolute crap. The people from the NFl have been all over the serious media explaining how this is part of their long term strategy to increase the market for US football. It's nearing saturation in the US so they're looking to develop in other other countries.

 

[Skint Gull]

well to continue the debate I was at the game last night, having followed AF through the eighties on 4 and indeed our own B52's (trying out for them too) I left at half time, sooooo boring didnt even get to see the streaker, best part for me was The Feeling and the UK national anthem, honest me and the gf thought a decent bottle of red back at the quality inn was a better bet, wont be going live anytime soon, on a lighter note this was our wembley debut, stunning is all i can say, one thing why didnt they have full size retracteble roof?

I would have to question your judgement on 'entertainment' then if you reckon watching The Feeling mime 2 of their songs was worth watching but a live NFL game was not? Granted it wasn't a great game but the atmosphere was great and seeing so much more than you do on TV made it more than entertaining enough for me!

 

[chez]

How do you get tickets for that? I thought it was just for people that won them off Skysports?! Not that I would particularly want to have my superbowl ruined by a bunch of idiots just there for a piss up...

The official way of getting hold of them is to be a member of NFLUK. They are free but obviously very limited.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I actually wondered if it was a subtle plan to get the likes of Liverpool manu and Arsenal to play a few "regular" season games over in the states.

the argument going something like " well we brought two of our top teams over to your tin pot country, we own most if not all of your top clubs, therefore dont start bitching when we take them to America for three or four games".

I can really see this coming off......especially as the FA/Premier League are in it for the money and eff all else.

 

[Buzzer]

Never given it much thought to this subject before but you know what?

That Dave the Gaffer speaks sense you know.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I'm sorry but that's absolute crap. The people from the NFl have been all over the serious media explaining how this is part of their long term strategy to increase the market for US football. It's nearing saturation in the US so they're looking to develop in other other countries.

Of course it has benefits for them. I'm not naive enough to think that they thought "lets go out of our way to reward the lovely English fans, at our expense".

Their aim is to consolidate and encourage existing support (i.e. get more money out of it), and start to encourage new support, and thats why this idea was so appealing to them.

However, there was a long-term campaign from the NFL's European offices for the international series to take place, and an even larger campaign to get the game to be hosted in London. And then theres the full stadium, 1 million applications, etc etc etc. There was a huge market here desperate to see the game.

I'm not saying there aren't financial motivations behind the NFL's reasoning, but people are suggesting that we were almost 'forced' to have this game against are will by NFL moneybags, when there was a ridiculously large demand in EUrope for the game, so its win-win. Apart from a few people on here who seem to have taken massive offense to the whole thing.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I actually wondered if it was a subtle plan to get the likes of Liverpool manu and Arsenal to play a few "regular" season games over in the states.

the argument going something like " well we brought two of our top teams over to your tin pot country, we own most if not all of your top clubs, therefore dont start bitching when we take them to America for three or four games".

I can really see this coming off......especially as the FA/Premier League are in it for the money and eff all else.

Well thats pretty much what all the newspaper opinion columns have been on at all week but in all honesty I don't necessarily follow the link. I think it could definitely happen involving the PL clubs, but I don't see how this game can really be used as any supporting reasoning behind it, and I would think the owners are business-minded enough to realise that. This is part of a longer-term plan involving the NFL and its fans, although I am impressed that the hacks managed to turn even this into a discussion about the Premiership, cos there isn't enough of that in the papers!

 

[chez]

I honestly cant see a Premiership match being played over there in the near future. The difference with them playing over here is that there is no professional gridiron league here (and even when there was it was at a useless standard). They have the MLS over there which isn't a bad standard so they have no real need for the Premiership to promote the game.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I honestly cant see a Premiership match being played over there in the near future. The difference with them playing over here is that there is no professional gridiron league here (and even when there was it was at a useless standard). They have the MLS over there which isn't a bad standard so they have no real need for the Premiership to promote the game.

Plus, they still sell out when the likes of United, Chelsea and Celtic go over there for friendlies. The problem the NFL had was that understrength teams and friendlies were no-longer interesting the fans here.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I honestly cant see a Premiership match being played over there in the near future. The difference with them playing over here is that there is no professional gridiron league here (and even when there was it was at a useless standard). They have the MLS over there which isn't a bad standard so they have no real need for the Premiership to promote the game.

Ok then, look at it this way.

When English Teams go over to America to play friendlies, they invariably fill the stadiums to the rafters with people paying top dollar. The people who have invested in UK teams have not done it for the good of their health, rather the good of their bank balances...It seems infinitely logical that they would try to maxiomise their investments..

scondly, put yourself back 20 years ago. Could you have imagined football kicking off on Friday nights, Saturday lunchtime, saturday evening, Sunday moring, noon and night, just to accomodate TV? Teams like manu and Chelsea being owned by people who want them as something on their share portfolio. The top 4 teams from each european country playing each other in a league format...and finally clubs in a host country putting out teams without any players from that particular country? and....one team being franchised away to another part of the country?

Football is evolving and the game we know and love is changing, who knows what the next 20 years will bring

 

[Buzzer]

who knows what the next 20 years will bring

Monkey Tennis
Hovercars
Robot wives
Moon cheese
X-ray glasses

 

[Tooting Gull]

I've got a theory about monkey tennis. It's become such a byword for crap TV ideas, that someone in a postmodern moment of madness should actually make it. The viewing figures would be enormous, and the ad slots would go for millions. The press coverage would be huge, Partridge would sell some more DVDs - back of the net.

 

[Buzzer]

I love that phrase - "I've got a theory about Monkey Tennis"


Seriously, please may I quote it in my signature, if I give you due credit?

 

[B.M.F]

OUR team mate!

Patriots looked excellent against The Cowboys the other week & The Redskins yesterday. Cant see us turning the tables on them in The Superbowl.

BTW, looks like I could be getting tickets for the Superbash!!!!

Big game for them this week against the Colts. I guess they will play each other to get the honor of playing the Cowboys in the Superbowl
If you get tickets I better get an invite as I am close to it anyway depending on where this years is being held of course