[News] Farmers

[jcdenton08]

You have big sheds, but nobody's allowed in. And inside these big sheds are twenty-foot-high chickens, because of all the chemicals you've put in 'em, and these chickens are scared! They don't know why they're so big! They go "Oh, why am I so massive?" And they're looking down at all the other little chickens and they think they're in an aeroplane because all the other chickens are so small.

Depending on your point of view, Bernard Matthews is either responsible for the biggest ornithological genocide of recent times or he’s the greatest farmyard to table strategist of the last one hundred years.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

According to the NFU, the farmers voted 52/48 so identical to the rest of the country.

Still shocking.

Imagine voting 52/48 to have one's goolies cut off?

 

[nicko31]

Ten minutes into this from the economics/tax/inequality Professor Arun Advani from the University of Warwick (certainly no right winger) on why genuine new entrants can't go into farming. They're outgunned on price by those buying up farmland to shelter wealth. Worth a listen.

Arun Advani

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Good piece. He explained the two categories of; the tax avoiding wealthy who've bought huge tracts of land in recent times, versus genuine farmers who make modest profits in a low margin industry. He touched on the former should possibly have lost all reliefs, to me that should've happened.

I have friend who was a tenant farmer doing pick your own fruit and veg in the Cotswolds. He was desperate to have his own farm needing about 10 hectares.

The reality is he was getting outbid by rich city dwellers buying up land for horses / tax sheltering purposes. He immigrated to France and was given a low cost loan by the French government to buy a farm.

British governments haven't cared about farmers for a while

 

[Weststander]

Didn’t farmers actually vote exactly the same as the country? 52/48 …..

Until your post I'd spent the last 8 years believing farmers voted for Brexit, possibly based on nsc propaganda.
https://westcountryvoices.co.uk/cha...t-and-therefore-deserve-whats-coming-to-them/

I had always thought it strange that arable areas that had done okay from the EU had voted to leave. It turns out .... they didn't.

 

[clapham_gull]

 

[jcdenton08]

Until your post I'd spent the last 8 years believing farmers voted for Brexit, possibly based on nsc propaganda.
https://westcountryvoices.co.uk/cha...t-and-therefore-deserve-whats-coming-to-them/

I had always thought it strange that arable areas that had done okay from the EU had voted to leave. It turns out .... they didn't.

I think this came from a preconception that rural areas voted for Brexit pretty much universally, which simply isn’t true in the numbers.

 

[nicko31]

Clearly a passionate farmer, if a bit "Colin from Portsmouth"

But he should be open diversifying the farm business, solar panel income doesn't disappear with the next poor harvest.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Well he is, isn't he? A shouty one at that.

 

[MJsGhost]

Didn’t farmers actually vote exactly the same as the country? 52/48 …..

The Farmers Weekly article posted earlier in the thread said that their poll of their readership suggested 54% voted for Brexit:

Aside from the obvious questions about the veracity of the FW's survey, it indicates a smaller majority of farmers voted for Brexit than I would have thought.

 

[Weststander]

I think this came from a preconception that rural areas voted for Brexit pretty much universally, which simply isn’t true in the numbers.

I often listen to O'Brien, he based it on seeing some Vote Brexit banners on farmland. It is true, I saw that in the Newick area.

But to extrapolate that to a population ...

 

[vegster]

He was an interesting chap.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Still shocking.

Imagine voting 52/48 to have one's goolies cut off?

I wonder how the women voted in that scenario?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Clearly a passionate farmer

But he should be open diversifying the farm business, solar panel imcome doesn't disappear with the next poor harvest

Do I boil it or roast it?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

He was an interesting chap.

Radio bloke is a runt. Thick as mince

 

[the larks]

So the policy should have the effect of reducing the value of agriculture land as it will stop the likes of Dyson and Clarkson buying farms for a tax dodge, the result could be twofold, 1. The inheritance values fall thus meaning even fewer farms are in scope to IHT and 2. It might becone affordable for tenant farmers to buy a farm.
I'm quite happy with the changes which remeber were only introduced In the 1990s.

 

[fruitnveg]

Clearly a passionate farmer, if a bit "Colin from Portsmouth"

But he should be open diversifying the farm business, solar panel income doesn't disappear with the next poor harvest.

It does if the land you put it on needs to be sold to meet an IHT bill.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It does if the land you put it on needs to be sold to meet an IHT bill.

There’s only 500 farms in the whole country where it’s applicable, so he may be one of the few.

 

[mile oak]

i just wish they would pay their taxes and at 40% not 20% i think yet again this Labour government have got it all wrong they went too soft of the Farmers

 

[nicko31]

It does if the land you put it on needs to be sold to meet an IHT bill.

If you have a decent income you will be able to pay your IHT bill on interest free credit. If that fails sell some land

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If you have a decent income you will be able to pay your IHT bill on interest free credit. If that fails sell some land

Over 10 years.