[Politics] Far right party set to take power in Holland ?

[Ali_rrr]

Out of interest, did you (or any of the other NL-based NSC'ers for that matter) get a vote yesterday, or am I the only one with Dutch nationality?

I think you're the only one. I have other EU nationalities so I don't really need a Dutch passport (other than to vote). I would've gone PvDA or D66 if I could have.

 

[The Clamp]

A lot of people here would vociferously agree with you on that, but at the same time they will spew anti-Islamic nonsense without thinking about it, they believe innocently, and not see the connection...

Interesting. Not a country I know a lot about beyond going there a couple of times in my twenties to get spangled on shrooms

 

[Trufflehound]

Interesting. Not a country I know a lot about beyond going there a couple of times in my twenties to get spangled on shrooms

Remember that this is also a country where, around this time of year, the streets fill with people in blackface handing out sweets to children, and (while the debate is at least now raging, which it wasn't until a few years ago), a very significant portion of the population will still swear adamantly that there is nothing racist in this behaviour...

They (not everyone, but a lot of people) simply don't get it...

 

[The Clamp]

Remember that this is also a country where, around this time of year, the streets fill with people in blackface handing out sweets to children, and (while the debate is at least now raging, which it wasn't until a few years ago), a very significant portion of the population will still swear adamantly that there is nothing racist in this behaviour...

Very odd behaviour and I suppose it’s in these once “harmless” traditions, the hidden but deep seated bigotry lies.

 

[A1X]

This is the very reasoning which causes people to vote for extreme options. Like when Brown dismissed a woman on the campaign trail as a “bigoted woman” for asking a perfectly reasonable question any politician should be able to easily field.

Sorry but I will fundamentally disagree with the Gordon Brown comment. Her complaint was about immigrants claiming benefits, something they could not do at the time (and still cannot in the circumstances she was complaining about). Brown handled it badly, and was stitched up by a Murdoch-backed (at the time) media organisation in Sky News leaving his microphone on in private, but she was fundamentally wrong. Facts matter, and she was not using them.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So the NSC Party is holding the balance of power. They have interesting policies:

-Absolute zero tolerance of spelling errors in all
-Polls for all key decisions- including the national condiment
-Prejudice towards all referees
-Your latest book read must be disclosed and registered
-Any new MP must disclose a picture of their wife/girlfriend/ boyfriend/husband/both for a verdict on their suitability
-An additional poll on the above

I wonder who the ministers are.

When a perfectly reasonable question is asked quickly decend into name-calling and/or puns.

 

[sydney]

also in Argentina.

 

[Trufflehound]

When a perfectly reasonable question is asked quickly decend into name-calling and/or puns.

We could descend into Dutch vis puns. That would quickly have other fish pun threads paling into insignificance

 

[Simster]

So the Dutch have naively voted for a party that blames Islam for a lot of their ills. He has stood back from banning the Koran already though. Interesting to see how this plays out.

Regardless, I see the Dutch weren't sufficiently thick/hoodwinked to vote for some sort of Nexit nonsense anyway. Only the British thickets fall for that one.

 

[warmleyseagull]

I voted for yesterday, GL/PvdA, or D66,

That inadvertently summarises the whole problem of PR or variants thereof. I thought that might have been a new drug with alternative names.

 

[Trufflehound]

also in Argentina.

The significant difference is that their nutjob has now taken over (or will have as soon as he's inaugurated), and can start implementing his nutjob policies with abandon.

Our nutjob must now enter into months of delicate coalition negotiations that may never succeed, and even if they do they will probably entail him having to water down the worst of his nutjob policies to get them accepted by others...

 

[Trufflehound]

That inadvertently summarises the whole problem of PR or variants thereof. I thought that might have been a new drug with alternative names.

Sorry to disappoint. The Dutch just love their acronyms and abbreviations:

GL = Groen Links = Green Left
PvdA = Partij van de Arbeid = Labour Party
D66 = Democrats 66 - the 66 is just the year in which they were founded...

 

[Bakero]

There is abject poverty everywhere - not just in a few towns or ‘up North’. Where I live, xenophobia and a violent antipathy to immigrants is rife; overt racism is rife; it has a largely school-only educated population of blue collar workers; inflated by the influx of Eastern Europeans who prior to Brexit, were the largest demographic. It is one of the most socially deprived areas in the Country, with 2 GP surgeries for 26,000 people with a waiting list of at least 4 weeks, public transport in rural areas has all but collapsed, and the High Street is full of Pound Shops and porn shops.

I know you said it's a poor area but surely with mobile internet people can find their grumble online.

 

[Zeberdi]

I know you said it's a poor area but surely with mobile internet people can find their grumble online.

I meant ‘pawn’ of course

 

[Bakero]

I meant ‘pawn’ of course

I know