Far-Right National Front Stuns French Elite With EU 'Earthquake'

[midnight_rendezvous]

Crikey Martyn, why not state the obvious. Of course there is a difference. The fact is that people in the UK have voiced their discontentment with the policies of the main 3, and the French people have used their vote to voice their discontentment with their governments policies.
Nobody twisted their arms, in fact our media and the other parties waged a massive slur campaign to discredit UKIP.

I'll admit the coverage of the parties has been disproportionate BUT justifying the many racist, homophobic and xenophobic comments because the papers have running with those stories is ridiculous.

 

[martyn20]

Exactly. I see Martyn is getting the old "Nazi" comments in early doors instead of trying to fathom out WHY the French have chosen to vote for this party.

The 'old Nazi' thing does not work tonight as they have actually been voted in, means something very different now

 

[Footsoldier]

I agree, but you seem to be celebrating these results

Yes I do but only because democracy is live and well when I thought it was dead because of the liberal elite who have tried to silence anyone who tries to speak against their ideology which has worked for 15 years but now people are fed up and are rebelling on scales the left didn't think they'd see.

 

[Soulman]

People across Europe are fed up and are now voicing their anger and want change. People are fed up with the left ideology and want their country to be governed by the elected MPs that the public vote for and not by some unelected left wing politically correct politician from Brussels.

Well the main parties never listened to the concerns of the people, just blindly carried on regardless.
Expect a change in policies (to appease) from the bewildered 3, which will be just lip service, any day now.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Yes I do but only because democracy is live and well when I thought it was dead because of the liberal elite who have tried to silence anyone who tries to speak against their ideology which has worked for 15 years but now people are fed up and are rebelling on scales the left didn't think they'd see.

Democracy is hardly working when only 36% of the electorate actually vote.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

People across Europe are fed up and are now voicing their anger and want change.

Not from where I'm sitting they're not.

 

[Steve.S]

I agree, but you seem to be celebrating these results

I do not think people are celebrating them, as usual the main parties will put a spin on it and not deal with the underlying problem. People feel disaffected and feel the the politicians are not listening. The way to end all this, is to have a referendum on the
E.U and put this to bed, let's have a proper debate.

 

[Soulman]

The 'old Nazi' thing does not work tonight as they have actually been voted in, means something very different now

It means that the French people are fed up with what has been happening. Many over here think that the vote for UKIP is a protest vote, maybe the French politicians will wake up as well, and this is just a protest vote.
Either way the voters here and over the channel are not happy with what they have been dished up of late are they.

 

[martyn20]

I do not think people are celebrating them, as usual the main parties will put a spin on it and not deal with the underlying problem. People feel disaffected and feel the the politicians are not listening. The way to end all this, is to have a referendum on the
E.U and put this to bed, let's have a proper debate.

That might sort out UKIP but it will not stop the rise of the Nazi's and NF in Europe!

 

[Soulman]

I do not think people are celebrating them, as usual the main parties will put a spin on it and not deal with the underlying problem. People feel disaffected and feel the the politicians are not listening. The way to end all this, is to have a referendum on the
E.U and put this to bed, let's have a proper debate.

In 2007 before the Tories came to power, Call Me Dave promised a referendum if the Tories won the election, they did and he reneged on the promise.
Over 3 years later after much public pressure he agreed to a referendum after the next election, a vote in 2017.
The tories may not get in, if they do he will duck it again imo.

 

[Footsoldier]

Well the main parties never listened to the concerns of the people, just blindly carried on regardless.
Expect a change in policies (to appease) from the bewildered 3, which will be just lip service, any day now.

To right and the three main parties are trying to think how to woo the UKIP votes back, like you say, if they woo them back it'll only be lip service as once they're back then it'll be business as usual but the problem is that we've seen it election after election and people have had enough and will make them pay come next may.

The three main parties think people are so gullible and naive, maybe so for years gone past but not anymore.

 

[Steve.S]

That might sort out UKIP but it will not stop the rise of the Nazi's and NF in Europe!

I am not bothered about France to be honest, they only think about themselves. The problem is the E.U and the power it has, and that has to change.

 

[Soulman]

I am not bothered about France to be honest, they only think about themselves. The problem is the E.U and the power it has, and that has to change.

Yes. Which is why we have seen the voting today and on Thursday.

 

[Don Quixote]

Clegg is finished.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

In 2007 before the Tories came to power, Call Me Dave promised a referendum if the Tories won the election, they did and he reneged on the promise.
Over 3 years later after much public pressure he agreed to a referendum after the next election, a vote in 2017.
The tories may not get in, if they do he will duck it again imo.

He promised a referendum on a re-negotiated EU charter. There is absolutely no way he will be able to negotiate the changes he wants so you are correct, it won't happen.

 

[Steve.S]

In 2007 before the Tories came to power, Call Me Dave promised a referendum if the Tories won the election, they did and he reneged on the promise.
Over 3 years later after much public pressure he agreed to a referendum after the next election, a vote in 2017.
The tories may not get in, if they do he will duck it again imo.

I think the lib dems are dead in the water, I can see them getting rid of Clegg, UKIP are not going away and I think The Tory back benches will want this issue dealt with and Dave will be under pressure, could be an early G/election

 

[martyn20]

We need to stay in Europe as a trading partner but not as a governing partner. The only way it will work, if we pull out totally the damage to the economy would be great. Even with these results I could only see a stay vote in a straight in and out refendum

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The problem is the E.U and the power it has, and that has to change.

Be a proper member and make change then. Signing up but moaning from the periphery won't do anything.

 

[Soulman]

That might sort out UKIP but it will not stop the rise of the Nazi's and NF in Europe!

Why "sort out UKIP". Try sorting out the 3 parties that have ignored the unhappy voters in the UK.
In a democratic vote UKIP picked up many many votes, now why was that Martyn.

 

[martyn20]

Why "sort out UKIP". Try sorting out the 3 parties that have ignored the unhappy voters in the UK.
In a democratic vote UKIP picked up many many votes, now why was that Martyn.

The post was about a referendum, which ever way the country voted UKIP would be done because they would have nothing to campaign for! Same as SNP