Del Fenner
Because of Boxing Day
The coach driver turned up at the Player of the Year event and confessed? Proof please.
There is a video of the circumstances which I described.
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The coach driver turned up at the Player of the Year event and confessed? Proof please.
There is a video of the circumstances which I described.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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My comment was specifically related to who did the deed and the fact that your player's story was known to be the case very soon after the game, way before he told his 'hypothetical' story.
A quick google shows me Mccarthy's comments were from January 15....with 'poogate' happening in May 13. So that's 20 months after it was already known,
I have no idea about the coach driver turning up to any party.
Stato
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No there isn't. There is a video of McCarthy explaining the truth. No reference is made to anything hypothetical:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyJOe9Cgly8
There is not a lot of point trying to maintain the spin when there is video evidence to prove you wrong.
Whoislloydy
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Who gives a ****
Perry Milkins
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the Coach Driver did obviously...
surlyseagull
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But we didn't ,and if we did you can be sure there would have been a letter of apology sent from our club to said club .
Del Fenner
Because of Boxing Day
What spin? ? ?
To which I said "Didn't happen."
The coach driver does not appear in the video. Have you any evidence to show that he did turn up?
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Thunder Bolt
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As mejona12 says, I also knew a few days after the incident, because I spoke to the first Brighton employee Ian Holloway spoke to as he came out of the changing room. At that time IH believed it was a Brighton employee responsible, but it soon emerged what had really happened.
In addition, the coach driver had also had a bad stomach at the team's hotel and a Brighton fan was employed there, so knew what had gone on.
I don't believe the story about the coach driver attending an end of season do, as [MENTION=3913]blue'n'white[/MENTION] posted, because coach drivers are not direct employees of the club, but hired in the same way as taxi drivers, albeit a regular driver for team games.
I do believe the video as posted above, as it confirms what I was told within days of the incident, and became fairly common knowledge amongst Brighton fans. Your players just confirmed it.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
He doesn't have to does he. Your smirking player had already given the lowdown on what happened.
And all the time, the people in the know at your grubby little club kept schtum, whilst BHA put up with the pisstaking and lurid headlines and conducted an internal investigation that could quite easily have resulted in some members of staff losing their jobs over the incident.
Not that CPFC2010 would've been bothered, obviously. Rancid, classless institution from top to bottom.
B-right-on
Living the dream
Yep. And he was feeling flush with himself.
Del Fenner
Because of Boxing Day
Thanks, very interesting. I can see that there is enough circumstantial evidence for this hypothesis to be taken seriously.
Birdie Boy
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Whoa there Del, that's very nearly an apology, and we all know your club doesn't do that.
Is that because CPFC has no class?
W.C.
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This.
Seriously Del Fenner, what the **** are you doing on here splitting hairs about some urban legend? It really shows the class of your outfit that nothing has been said about it.
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Colonel Angus
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Have you got a cold?
Stato
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It seems fairly obvious that you are being disingenuous, but let's play it your way and spell it out clearly. You said:
You were correct that the coach driver didn't turn up and tell the story. You were wrong that a Palace player told a hypothetical story.
There is not video of the circumstances you described. There is video of Paddy McCarthy telling the story. He makes no reference to anything being 'hypothetical'. Therefore, it is not the circumstances you described. I didn't argue with your statement about the coach driver.
The intent is fairly obvious. You have concentrated on arguing about the part of the post that you got correct and left out any reference to the part of the post that you got plain wrong; the part of the post that I specifically corrected with reference to the word 'hypothetical'. You are still referring to the part of your post that I didn't dispute, pretending that I had argued with the statement about the coach driver which I evidently did not.
I stopped short of calling it a lie and called it 'spin' because you did address part of the truth, the irrelevant bit. You omitted the other part of the truth that was inconvenient to your argument: Call it cherry picking, straw man, aunt sally, or red herring, its a dishonest means of argument regardless of description. The relevant fact is that McCarthy has evidenced that Palace knew the truth, but were willing to let Brighton's innocent employees suffer the disapprobation.
You were correct that the coach driver didn't turn up and tell the story. You were wrong that a Palace player told a hypothetical story.
There is not video of the circumstances you described. There is video of Paddy McCarthy telling the story. He makes no reference to anything being 'hypothetical'. Therefore, it is not the circumstances you described. I didn't argue with your statement about the coach driver.
The intent is fairly obvious. You have concentrated on arguing about the part of the post that you got correct and left out any reference to the part of the post that you got plain wrong; the part of the post that I specifically corrected with reference to the word 'hypothetical'. You are still referring to the part of your post that I didn't dispute, pretending that I had argued with the statement about the coach driver which I evidently did not.
I stopped short of calling it a lie and called it 'spin' because you did address part of the truth, the irrelevant bit. You omitted the other part of the truth that was inconvenient to your argument: Call it cherry picking, straw man, aunt sally, or red herring, its a dishonest means of argument regardless of description. The relevant fact is that McCarthy has evidenced that Palace knew the truth, but were willing to let Brighton's innocent employees suffer the disapprobation.
jakarta
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Bog Standard behaviour from Palarse?