Falmer:Not sure sure we are winning the war

[The Oldman]

Have been talking to many folk in Seaford and trying to get them to sign the petition.

Most seem convinced that this about preserving the South Downs.
If a football stadium is built, what next? Many are convinced that the Albion will need supermarkets etc built around them to survive.

Also most believe that it will only cost Lewes DC a few thousand to appeal becuse they have heard that others will be chipping in with cash. A few thous is worth preserving the Downs.

Whether these views are getting through to Lewes DC I don't know.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

It's not about the stadium or whether it should or shouldn't be built now. It is about whether the decision is legally flawed. Unfortunately many members of the public still fail to get to grips with this.

 

[Da Man Clay]

We have already won the war. There not fighting us there fighting the goverment

 

[Wardy]

It's not about the stadium or whether it should or shouldn't be built now. It is about whether the decision is legally flawed. Unfortunately many members of the public still fail to get to grips with this.

Yep LDC could win a Judical Review and JP could relook at the decision and still say yes.

 

[The Oldman]

We have already won the war. There not fighting us there fighting the goverment

Agreed but Lewes DC are hardly likely to quit the Judicial Review if they get this sort of feedback and we need public support

 

[Wardy]

Agreed but Lewes DC are hardly likely to quit the Judicial Review if they get this sort of feedback and we need public support

They might have to quit if the judge say they have no grounds to seek one.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I am convinced that we must highlight the fact that the site is not as picturesque as it seems.

Nimbies et al, are talking about BHA building on open downland. People picking up snippets of the case are bound to believe them, rather than side with a football team. The facts are there but people can't see them.

I would be interested to see how many people in favour of blocking the stadium, for reasons of protecting the downs, have actually seen the site properly.

 

[Da Man Clay]

Agreed but Lewes DC are hardly likely to quit the Judicial Review if they get this sort of feedback and we need public support

To be fair they might not even stop then, it will only stop when the judge tells them to give up.

 

[Yorkie]

Articles like this in the Argus help.

http://www.northstandchat.biz/showthread.php?threadid=61771

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Articles like this in the Argus help.

http://www.northstandchat.biz/showthread.php?threadid=61771

Agreed. But I am sure there are a huge amount of people that don't read the argus or watch the local news, reading Mid Sussex news etc. or other local rags. It may not make the slightest bit of difference, but if more people were aware. Perhaps with petitions etc. photos of the site should be provided, and plans of the stadium which are beneficial to the environment. More trees etc or park and ride schemes. Maybe the club should make an annual donation to the sussex downsmen....

 

[sullyupthewing]

One mistake the club made was calling it Falmer, North Moulscoombe would have sounded better and Joe Public would not have given a shit.

 

[somerset]

I am convinced that we must highlight the fact that the site is not as picturesque as it seems.

Nimbies et al, are talking about BHA building on open downland. People picking up snippets of the case are bound to believe them, rather than side with a football team. The facts are there but people can't see them.

I would be interested to see how many people in favour of blocking the stadium, for reasons of protecting the downs, have actually seen the site properly.

Totally agree, I never saw one photograph published by our side that truly shows the uni/road/rail etc in perspective with the site. All the ones i saw had rolling hills in the background, not surprised there are those with a skewed view of the issue.

 

[London Irish]

Have been talking to many folk in Seaford and trying to get them to sign the petition.

Most seem convinced that this about preserving the South Downs.
If a football stadium is built, what next? Many are convinced that the Albion will need supermarkets etc built around them to survive.

Also most believe that it will only cost Lewes DC a few thousand to appeal becuse they have heard that others will be chipping in with cash. A few thous is worth preserving the Downs.

Whether these views are getting through to Lewes DC I don't know.

Nah, we've won the war. If Lewes want to spend the rest of their lives like Japanese serviceman still fighting the Allies in deep jungle circa 1950s, let 'em to De Vecchi

 

[cardboard]

If the judge says yes there is a case for a judicial review don't LDC have to stump up some serious wedge before they even get anywhere

People being hit in the pocket on that scale will scupper it im sure especially when the grounds of appeal are majorly flawed?

 

[Eddie the Seagull]

Agreed but Lewes DC are hardly likely to quit the Judicial Review if they get this sort of feedback and we need public support

Remember that the stadium is being built on Brighton City Councils land. Only the changes to the access roads etc. & 1/2 a parking space are under LDC's jurisdiction.

The people of Brighton & Hove voted 5:1 in FAVOUR of the stadium.

If people from LDC areas object to the stadium then I'll object to the speed bumps being implemented outside my Nan's house in Wallasey & the cell phone mast next to my sister-in-laws house in Belfast.

 

[cardboard]

Happy birthday Eddie

 

[Seagull's Return]

On a dull, technical note, there are two core environmental arguments that could be levelled against the Falmer stadium:

1. It is encroaching on the South Downs and will have a detrimental effect on the AONB and/or the wildlife habitats thereof;

2. It is a buffer site that protects the South Downs from further development.

Both arguments are flawed:

1. The site is NOT on downland (a valuable and internationally rare habitat which really does need conserving), but is a field which has been in arable production for a century or more, including at least 60 years of intensive industrial farming practices. This has left it the environmental equivalent of a void, a monoculture where only the crop planted grows, of minimal wildlife value either locally, nationally or internationally. It would take generations to return this field to any kind of unimproved chalk grassland. A little forethought would enable considerably more wildlife to live there after the stadium's built than now, frankly.

2. The site is NOT a buffer for the South Downs; that is provided by the extensive arable fields between it and the Downs. Building the stadium on the site will make no difference at all to any future developments of the area.

Sorry to bang on about this, but I thought people might find it useful to be prepared in case anybody comes up with the usual objections about the environmental impact of the stadium development. Hope this helps!

 

[Yorkie]

This is just a hiccup.

We have won and there's nothing LDC can do about it except to make fools of themselves and waste our money.

 

[Redhead]

This is just a hiccup.

We have won and there's nothing LDC can do about it except to make fools of themselves and waste our money.

Well thats good then

 

[Ccider]

This is just a hiccup.

We have won and there's nothing LDC can do about it except to make fools of themselves and waste our money.

But they are talking about a hearing next JUNE - that's a bloody long hiccup.