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Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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helga said:
Have just heard from an informed source that decision will be an 'adjournment of 14 days' whereby all other sites will be looked at and then disregarded, hence leaving Falmer as a YES!!

This apparently is just to put the last case in place to try and avoid a legal challenge. Therefore I think it is good news as it means that they are trying to make sure that it goes through.

Fairly confident of the source, but don't shoot me if I am wrong.

Personally sounds a bit pointless given all the work put into this already to say another 14 days are going to make any difference but I guess they know best.

Anyone else heard this???
If that turns out to be true, then I will be livid.
What is the POINT of a 14 day adjournment to consider other sites ?
This has been absolutely done to death at the Inquiry. The club presented detailed analysis of precisely why Sheepcote Valley, Beeding, Shoreham Harbour, Brighton Station etc etc were unsuitable, so why the f*** should the decision be delayed while people pick over the bones of what has already been exhaustively researched and discussed ? What "new evidence" could possibly come out ? We went over all this crap (again) when Hoiles report came out as well. Exactly how many times do we have to talk about alternative sites before someone makes a frigging decision ?

The Public Inquiry was about Falmer, not anywhere else. The whole plan has to stand or fall on the suitablity of Falmer. We could go on for another 50 years arguing the toss about this site and that site - what are we going to do, conduct a full Public Inquiry into every bloody site a NIMBY points its finger at ? Just give us the decision on Falmer, for FUCKS sake.
 
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helga

New member
Aug 8, 2003
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Yes I agree. Seems a pointless exercise.

But that said if it makes it less likely that there will be a judicial review then two weeks is no time to wait is it?
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,096
Easy 10 said:
If that turns out to be true, then I will be livid.
What is the POINT of a 14 day adjournment to consider other sites ?
This has been absolutely done to death at the Inquiry. The club presented detailed analysis of precisely why Sheepcote Valley, Beeding, Shoreham Harbour, Brighton Station etc etc were unsuitable, so why the f*** should the decision be delayed while people pick over the bones of what has already been exhaustively researched and discussed ? What "new evidence" could possibly come out ? We went over all this crap (agani) when Hoiles report came out as well. Exactly how many times do we have to talk about alternative sites before someone makes a frigging decision ?

The Public Inquiry was about Falmer, not anywhere else. The whole plan has to stand or fall on the suitablity of Falmer. We could go on for another 50 years arguing the toss about this site and that site - what are we going to do, conduct a full Public Inquiry into every bloody site a NIMBY points its finger at ? Just give us the decision on Falmer, for FUCKS sake.

Quite.

I still think this will be the case though.

Fact is that Hoile DOES think that Sheepcote Valley is suitable and he seems to have argued this point very strongly. If that's the last little point they have to go over before finally announcing the right decision then I'm willing to wait.
 


Wardy

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Oct 9, 2003
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helga said:
Yes I agree. Seems a pointless exercise.

But that said if it makes it less likely that there will be a judicial review then two weeks is no time to wait is it?

Agree 2 weeks or 52 weeks+ i know which i will chose
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,419
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Quite.

I still think this will be the case though.

Fact is that Hoile DOES think that Sheepcote Valley is suitable and he seems to have argued this point very strongly. If that's the last little point they have to go over before finally announcing the right decision then I'm willing to wait.
I didn't think it was Hoile's job to start suggesting alternative sites anyway - thats one of the main reasons why everyone was so outraged when his report came out. This was a public inquiry into the suitability of FALMER - nowhere else. Its not for Hoile, or anyone else, to start trawling round saying "oh, why don't you build it THERE instead ?" The application should stand or fall on the suitability of Falmer, and Falmer alone. That is what our application centres on - it was NOT a remit for NIMBYS to come out and say "naah, it'd be better over there".
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,096
Easy 10 said:
I didn't think it was Hoile's job to start suggesting alternative sites anyway - thats one of the main reasons why everyone was so outraged when his report came out. This was a public inquiry into the suitability of FALMER - nowhere else. Its not for Hoile, or anyone else, to start trawling round saying "oh, why don't you build it THERE instead ?" The application should stand or fall on the suitability of Falmer, and Falmer alone. That is what our application centres on - it was NOT a remit for NIMBYS to come out and say "naah, it'd be better over there".


I thought that was exactly what he did?

Edit: Oh, I see. That's why you angry.

:dunce:
 
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lost in london

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Dec 10, 2003
1,838
London
And how could they ever investigate all the other sites thoroughly in 2 weeks? Falmer has taken about 48 million years to work out whether it is suuitable.

Just say Yes then let us start whining about not being able to raise the funds / find a decent contractor / bloody hippies diging treches in the field and camping there etc.
 


Uncle Buck

Ghost Writer
Jul 7, 2003
28,075
Easy 10 said:
I didn't think it was Hoile's job to start suggesting alternative sites anyway - thats one of the main reasons why everyone was so outraged when his report came out. This was a public inquiry into the suitability of FALMER - nowhere else. Its not for Hoile, or anyone else, to start trawling round saying "oh, why don't you build it THERE instead ?" The application should stand or fall on the suitability of Falmer, and Falmer alone. That is what our application centres on - it was NOT a remit for NIMBYS to come out and say "naah, it'd be better over there".

But because other sites have been suggested (rightly or wrongly), the ODPM are going down the route of them being dismissed to avoid a lengthy, costly and potentially embarrassing Judicial Review. What better way than to get the party that it will affect to pay for the study and then say, OK case proved, here is your site, off you go, we save face, you get what you want and jack all the Nimby’s can do. If this is the case, we have come this far, what is an extra couple of weeks or month?
 




The ESSENTIAL requirements for any major development in an AONB are:-

1. That the development is necessary in terms of national considerations;

2. That the development will bring singnificant economic, social and community benefits;

3. That the environmental effects can be suitably mitigated;

4. That there is no other suitable site available.


ALL of these tests need to be met.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,096
So, Ed. You are saying that 3 out of 4 of those conditions have been met and the ODPM need further evidence to fulfill the 4th?
 














Wardy

NSC's Benefits Guru
Oct 9, 2003
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This better not be another bloody hoax else im gonna go f***ing mad.
 


(was)DBS

New member
Jul 24, 2003
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Southwick
Here we go again:nono:
 










Wardy

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Oct 9, 2003
11,219
In front of the PC
magoo said:
Albion just recieved letter saying expect decision early this week if not today. According to Southern FM.

So where did Argus get story saying it was today?
 


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