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[Football] Falling out of love...



zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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This. All those rosy-tinted views of the Championship are just like all those rosy-tinted views of Withdean. I'm as guilty as anyone on that score. But in the final analsis, tho it was fun for some of the time, it was bloody grim for most of the time. Been there, done that, no wish to revisit the teeshirt

Whilst I agree, and Withdean/Gillingham was shyte . . .I'd walk back to the Goldstone and stand on the terrace, come rain or shine, in a flash over the Amex.
 




Thunder Bolt

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This. All those rosy-tinted views of the Championship are just like all those rosy-tinted views of Withdean. I'm as guilty as anyone on that score. But in the final analsis, tho it was fun for some of the time, it was bloody grim for most of the time. Been there, done that, no wish to revisit the teeshirt

It was good winning games instead of hoping for 9 wins in a season to be able to avoid relegation. That's what we managed last season and the two previous.

You posted, yourself, very recently, that we stay up because there are three worst teams than us.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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No, i don't think I am right now, although the current application of VAR does piss me off. What I love is following the journey of a team, so I am enjoying this current journey of changing style and blooding youngsters and see every setback as just steps on that path. I loved the first three Hughton years, the Poyet years, the Micky part 1 and the truncated Brady period for those reasons, and got less interested at times when we appeared stagnant like under Garcia and McGhee/Wilkins /Micky 2/Slade. I know that if we did back out of Potter and go to Roy type person I'd feel the same, but don't see that happening thankfully.
 


Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,332
Brighton factually.....
It was good winning games instead of hoping for 9 wins in a season to be able to avoid relegation. That's what we managed last season and the two previous.

You posted, yourself, very recently, that we stay up because there are three worst teams than us.

Oh to win three or four games on the bounce again :eek:

never ever gonna happen in the Premier League, best we can hope for is a win, four draws, how feckin sad is that...

there seems nothing to look forward to long term....
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Oh to win three or four games on the bounce again :eek:

never ever gonna happen in the Premier League, best we can hope for is a win, four draws, how feckin sad is that...

there seems nothing to look forward to long term....

Yet people moaned, when we had three 1-0 wins on the trot just two years ago, saying it was boring.
 


Sarisbury Seagull

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It was good winning games instead of hoping for 9 wins in a season to be able to avoid relegation. That's what we managed last season and the two previous.

You posted, yourself, very recently, that we stay up because there are three worst teams than us.

I appreciate what you're saying but aren't those 9 wins against Tottenham, Everton and Arsenal etc more enjoyable and memorable than say 18 wins against the likes of Rotherham, Wycombe and Barnsley?
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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It was good winning games instead of hoping for 9 wins in a season to be able to avoid relegation. That's what we managed last season and the two previous.

You posted, yourself, very recently, that we stay up because there are three worst teams than us.

Was there a point you wanted to make buried in there somewhere? My fault I'm sure, but can't really see it
 




Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
Really? What makes you say that? I loved the Goldstone and the memories involved but think the Amex is fantastic, I wouldn't swap it at all.

I am a person who lives very much in the past, but no way would I swap the amex for the goldstone.

The stadium is just divine compared to that old mix match of a ramshackle stadium, the age has gone of smoke filling the air, boover boots and kappa tops with fans chasing eaching other through the back streets and hove park, it is far more sanitised now and to be honest, i am to old for that, so why else would you want it now if not to relive your youth.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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I must confess I feel the same way, although I'd add to it the way in which some players and clubs acted at the outset of COVID-19 when people were losing their jobs and players spoke of "deferred" payments, i.e. I get £40k a week but I'm happy to defer some of that for a month or two.

Add to this that twenty years ago I could go to Withdean on my own and as the boys came along I've taken them, they are now 17 and 14 and the elder plays in the SCFL so I prefer watching him, this, I think, is my last as a STH, and having held one for twenty years it seems sad but also feels like another chapter in my following of the beautiful game.
 


herecomesaregular

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Oct 27, 2008
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As much as anything else (even VAR) its actual footballers I've fallen out of love with. Every one of them is now a snide, cheating, whinging prick. Bleating in the refs ear, stealing yards on your own freekick or throw in and then blocking or walking away with the ball when its the oppositions ball. Prime example on Monday was when Nathan Redmond came on as a sub, literally the first thing he did was give away a throw and then take the ball out of Veltman's (?) hands so he couldn't take it. I guess its trained in to them, but sometimes I wonder how they get through life behaving like that.

I'm not criticising you but this made me laugh! There's loads of posts all over NSC elsewhere absolutely slating the Albion for being too soft/naive, lacking "game management", particularly after scoring or at the beginning of the game/half, near the end of the game/half!

Football is just not as "honourable" as rugby/cricket perhaps?
 




zefarelly

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Really? What makes you say that? I loved the Goldstone and the memories involved but think the Amex is fantastic, I wouldn't swap it at all.

If you could rock up on the day. pay on the gate and sit where you want maybe I'd warm to it a bit more, its just all pre planned, predictable, lacking in spontinaeity and charisma.
 


Thunder Bolt

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I appreciate what you're saying but aren't those 9 wins against Tottenham, Everton and Arsenal etc more enjoyable and memorable than say 18 wins against the likes of Rotherham, Wycombe and Barnsley?

Honest answer? No, because MOTD and the press just concentrate on how poorly the other teams played, instead of a great win for us.
At the moment, if any of our players are mentioned, it is in connection with a bigger team wanting them such as Tariq or Yves.

I can remember distinctly posting several times, whilst in the Championship, that we enjoy the journey more than the destination.
 


gripper stebson

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Jul 27, 2004
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Honest answer? No, because MOTD and the press just concentrate on how poorly the other teams played, instead of a great win for us.
At the moment, if any of our players are mentioned, it is in connection with a bigger team wanting them such as Tariq or Yves.

I can remember distinctly posting several times, whilst in the Championship, that we enjoy the journey more than the destination.

Another plus of our years in the lower leagues is that we would start each season not really having any idea how it would play out. We could win the division by ten points or get relegated. Either was always possible.

Not so much now! The thought of battling our way to 40 points this season, slapping ourselves on the back, and then starting to try and battle our way to 40 points next season is a bit dull IMO.

We are basicaclly in a sporting competition we can't posibly win. EVER.

Another reason for a lot of the replies here is, I believe, that the novelty of playing Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool etc has pretty much worn off.
 




Hiney

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Jul 5, 2003
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Am I pissed off with the application of VAR - absolutely yes

Am I falling out of love with football/Albion - absolutely not.

Football has been a huge part of my life for as long as I can remember anything and I would have it any other way. I still 100% love the game. VAR isn't the problem, it's the way it dovetails with the laws of the game. THAT'S what needs to be sorted out.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Time was when first division football was the best football played by the best footballers in the land. Now, PL football, with its hoard of officials, technology, and frankly rules that are effectively different (the faintest of touches being a penalty, for instance, if the player touched rolls far enough while screaming) is actually becoming a different game - no longer the best of the best, but a game that is becoming unrecognisable from all other ('normal') football.
 


zefarelly

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Time was when first division football was the best football played by the best footballers in the land. Now, PL football, with its hoard of officials, technology, and frankly rules that are effectively different (the faintest of touches being a penalty, for instance, if the player touched rolls far enough while screaming) is actually becoming a different game - no longer the best of the best, but a game that is becoming unrecognisable from all other ('normal') football.

Which is underwritten by the fact so many of us are watchiing and enjoying football at a different level. any level but PL.
 


Hornblower

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Jul 7, 2003
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I’m sure this has been said before but the best thing about being outside of the PL is that most games take place at 3pm on a Saturday. I’m thoroughly sick of Sunday/Monday games.
 




Recidivist

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Yet people moaned, when we had three 1-0 wins on the trot just two years ago, saying it was boring.

They were boring games and we were very lucky to win all three, as I recall.

Mind you, I’d probably settle for that right now as I think the team’s confidence must be at rock bottom.......!


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Taybha

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Oct 8, 2008
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FA cup round 3 soon , the complete tom****ery that is football will be showing 2 different formats , 1 in super VAR vision where literally anything can happen on the say so of some oddball 200 miles away , and the pure version where what will be will be and you can celebrate a goal with gusto , rather than nipping to the bog and then finding out if it's ok to clap politely upon return .

If there is a football supporter on the planet that STILL thinks the application of VAR rules is better than no VAR at all then I honestly have no understanding of that view .

It's about time supporters of the game made themselves heard because this clusterfk that is VAR is stinking up the game to a point where it is no longer fun to watch or pay to see .
 


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