[Albion] Facundo Buonanotte **On Loan To Leicester 10/08/24**

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scwiffy

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Jun 24, 2011
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now hear me out ...


this is going to sound a bit silly, but watch the video and maybe it could change your view.

In the video it focusses on a part of his game that never really stuck in my head from watching him play - he really seems to be able to pick pockets and break up play. Maybe we have him in the wrong position. If he could get the rolling around on the floor out of his game, he could be the quality DM we've been looking for since Caicedo left.
(obvious caveats about youtube videos not being the full picture of the player)

Yeah its something I hadn't noticed until the last few weeks. Funnily enough the video more emphasises to me that his floated cross pitch passes definitely need work because although they find their man, they take the momentum out of the play each time, they are to 'on' the man as oppose to in front of the man.

TBF he could definitely now play in RDZs 2 man CM pairing, his defensive capabilities have improved so much recently that he's now just as good if not better than Gilmour and Gross at winning back the ball, but he doesn't have the outrageous passing ability or decision making of them. Regardless, his best position has always been the number 10/CAM role. He has that attacking output that is hard to come across. Lots of work and improvement needed but he's so young still and improved so much since given more game time. Very notable improvements other than the aforementioned are his energy/determination, his strength and balance under pressure with the ball and his eye for goal. No doubt as well that he carrying out RDZs tactical instructions very well too - something that I suspect poor Baleba is struggling to do.
 






pornomagboy

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Lets get Luis Guilherme as back up for Facu.
na I'd like for us to have a look at that jude player, he might have potential in 5 years time
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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I’m gonna say it as it’s how I feel. He’s on the whole underwhelming and not up to it yet. Poor decision making and lightweight.

I’m not one to pop at players often - it’s been on my mind for a long time. He’s shown some glimpses centrally but nowhere near enough. Exactly like Fati.

Of course, they need time to develop, but right now he’s not hitting anywhere near the heights we need.
 


Beanstalk

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I’m gonna say it as it’s how I feel. He’s on the whole underwhelming and not up to it yet. Poor decision making and lightweight.

I’m not one to pop at players often - it’s been on my mind for a long time. He’s shown some glimpses centrally but nowhere near enough. Exactly like Fati.

Of course, they need time to develop, but right now he’s not hitting anywhere near the heights we need.
He’s just turned 19 and a premier league regular. Lad is overflowing with potential.
 




CheeseRolls

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I’m gonna say it as it’s how I feel. He’s on the whole underwhelming and not up to it yet. Poor decision making and lightweight.

I’m not one to pop at players often - it’s been on my mind for a long time. He’s shown some glimpses centrally but nowhere near enough. Exactly like Fati.

Of course, they need time to develop, but right now he’s not hitting anywhere near the heights we need.
Ok - I think his development has really accelerated this season. His game time needs to be managed, but I think he has contributed a huge amount. I love the way he receives the ball on the run and he is starting to make an impact defensively, especially nicking the ball back.
 


Bodian

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Ok - I think his development has really accelerated this season. His game time needs to be managed, but I think he has contributed a huge amount. I love the way he receives the ball on the run and he is starting to make an impact defensively, especially nicking the ball back.
He also seems to be rolling around quite a bit less over the last few weeks / month.
 


Hugo Rune

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I’m gonna say it as it’s how I feel. He’s on the whole underwhelming and not up to it yet. Poor decision making and lightweight.

I’m not one to pop at players often - it’s been on my mind for a long time. He’s shown some glimpses centrally but nowhere near enough. Exactly like Fati.

Of course, they need time to develop, but right now he’s not hitting anywhere near the heights we need.
I thought this last season.

But he has made massive strides. Still a way to go as you indicate but I’d start him against Roma behind Welbz.
 






Machiavelli

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Yeah its something I hadn't noticed until the last few weeks. Funnily enough the video more emphasises to me that his floated cross pitch passes definitely need work because although they find their man, they take the momentum out of the play each time, they are to 'on' the man as oppose to in front of the man.

TBF he could definitely now play in RDZs 2 man CM pairing, his defensive capabilities have improved so much recently that he's now just as good if not better than Gilmour and Gross at winning back the ball, but he doesn't have the outrageous passing ability or decision making of them. Regardless, his best position has always been the number 10/CAM role. He has that attacking output that is hard to come across. Lots of work and improvement needed but he's so young still and improved so much since given more game time. Very notable improvements other than the aforementioned are his energy/determination, his strength and balance under pressure with the ball and his eye for goal. No doubt as well that he carrying out RDZs tactical instructions very well too - something that I suspect poor Baleba is struggling to do.
Excellent assessment here. His improvement has been stunning this season, especially in his tackling, tenacity and in-yer-face pressing. I'd like him to stay on his feet more and have to say that refs have assessed the (non-)fouls on him impressively.
 


jackanada

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Funnily enough the video more emphasises to me that his floated cross pitch passes definitely need work because although they find their man, they take the momentum out of the play each time, they are to 'on' the man as oppose to in front of the man.
A little OT but it's exactly the sort of inside right to outside left that commentators always used to cream themselves over when performed by Gerrard to similarly no effect.
I can't remember who it was but I read an interview some time ago with a player about when they signed for Clough. They talked about how they really liked doing that pass and their satisfaction with watching it arc and dip like a perfect loft onto the green in golf.
The first time they did it in training the great man shouted "Don't bloody do that again. It's just decoration"
 




brighton_tom

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For me he’s exactly where he reasonably should be in his development given his age & number of games played. Nowhere near the finished article & plenty to improve upon but so there should be at 19.

& he scored against Palace so bonus points there.
 


scwiffy

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Jun 24, 2011
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A little OT but it's exactly the sort of inside right to outside left that commentators always used to cream themselves over when performed by Gerrard to similarly no effect.
I can't remember who it was but I read an interview some time ago with a player about when they signed for Clough. They talked about how they really liked doing that pass and their satisfaction with watching it arc and dip like a perfect loft onto the green in golf.
The first time they did it in training the great man shouted "Don't bloody do that again. It's just decoration"
Its because they look beautiful on TV due to the angle. Crossfield balls can work amazingly to get out of pressure and/or switch play, especially if out to a player in space. But in Facundos case they are too floated (spend too much time in the air) and not in front of the player enough. No doubt something he can improve upon very quickly.
 


Machiavelli

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Its because they look beautiful on TV due to the angle. Crossfield balls can work amazingly to get out of pressure and/or switch play, especially if out to a player in space. But in Facundos case they are too floated (spend too much time in the air) and not in front of the player enough. No doubt something he can improve upon very quickly.
Good discussion and, to add, there are very few circumstances where floated balls are a good thing.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Good discussion and, to add, there are very few circumstances where floated balls are a good thing.
Congress in Mediterranean waters?
 




dazzer6666

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For me he’s exactly where he reasonably should be in his development given his age & number of games played. Nowhere near the finished article & plenty to improve upon but so there should be at 19.

& he scored against Palace so bonus points there.
He's miles ahead. He's playing PL football and in the (world Cup winning) Argentina squad. Most 19 year olds are in the U21s or on loan to L1 :giggle:
 






Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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He's already worth a lot more now than what we paid for him.

Not ready yet to be the 'go to' guy like Mitoma or Joao Pedro, but I think he will be a top player. I cannot wait to see him and Barco starting for us together.
 


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Right now, I don't think he's good enough to be a regular starter for a club pushing for top seven. He's come on immensely this season, but he's still mostly potential at this point.
 


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