[Albion] Facundo Buonanotte **On Loan To Leicester 10/08/24**

[Neville's Breakfast]

Groß did exactly the same. What gives?

Too much focus on moving the ball leftwards towards Mitoma. It is making us a little predictable.

 

[nwgull]

It took quite a while for Macallister to adjust to the speed and physical challenges of the EPL before he became a first choice. Similarly, I think Facundo will take time to come good. He’s probably been thrown in too early.

I think that comparison with the similarly aged Enciso is better. He signed in time to do a full pre season, but didn't make his debut for 4 months (Chelsea?) and it's taken a good 7-8 months of weight training and whey protein for him to be physically ready to play an effective starting role. Goodnight has only been with us 3 months, so it's certainly a lot to expect of an 18 year old no matter how talented he is.

 

[Marshy]

I think he will be exceptional, De Zerbi clearly likes him a lot.

a year of growth and strength like Ensico and we will have another excellent player

 

[Commander]

He is quite possibly going to be the best player we've ever had. I don't think he looks any worse than MacAllister did when he first played for us, and that was in a worse team and he was 3 years younger.

He's clearly not quite at the level of some of our starting players yet, but unless he is genuinely going to be the next Messi or Ronaldo then of course he wouldn't be. He needs minutes and development, which is what he is getting, so people need to accept that if we are going to create a genuine superstar out of him, then he's going to have a few ropey games along the way.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

With a player, this young and this inexperienced, you need to manage his transition to top level football.

Bring him in, for 20 mins here and there. The odd start, then bring him out, explaining why. We're putting him in like we're relying on him. It's way too much pressure to put on an 18 year old.

I also believe he should be gong off the play under 20 international football

 

[casbom]

If he doesn't get the ball je can't do anything. Numerous times he was in space when Webster had the ball bit he clearly never looks to his right, possibly one of the reasons he ws taken off.

Exactly, the number of times Webster got to outside of Evertons box and didn't know what to do with the ball as to be fair, there was no movement ahead of him. However Facundo was always in acres of space, appeared the players didn't trust him to have the ball. Everton could see that so left him alone to close down all of the space to the left. We lose the ball and they go up the other end and score. Dyche won the tactical battle. Hopefully the players and De Zerbi will learn a lot from this loss.

 

[Napper]

He's not ready and too much is being asked of him at the moment. Enciso has been tearing it up lately

Hope De Zerbi learns from this. Team selection was wrong and it cost us but we move on

 

[The Fits]

The fact the players didn't pass to him says all you need to know. They don't think he's ready. On the whole we are excellent at managing every aspect of our young players careers but I do think we need to be careful not to put so much burden on certain youngsters. Someone like Weir, you'd imagine, would be far closer to being ready to deal with the immense physical and emotional pressure of playing regularly in this league. We need to be a club that both provides a sensible long term pathway and offers a real chance of the most talented youngsters being involved in the squad, but we must be aware that most aren't going to be ready. Probably only Ferguson and Enciso genuinely are currently.
He's clearly a very talented kid but I think on this one we probably got it wrong not sending off to play for Argentina. He could have gone to that tournament, been one of its stars and come back absolutely buzzing. Instead he's been hooked at half time in our worst home defeat for a very long time. Yes he'll learn from it but at what cost?
But then who else do we play? It's a balancing act, it's not easy, and we do it get right more often than not, but we also need to be realistic (club and fans).
Having someone like Milner, and maybe another couple of more seasoned pros for next season, will definitely help.

 

[Eric Youngs Contact Lens]

Maybe, just maybe, we struggled without a "proper" right back - tactically, that was what Dyche will have planned for. We were very weak down that side defensively - lack of pace, strength and defensive know-how. I completely agree that in the first half, it was clear that Everton were not bothered about his beating the full-back on the outside with pace or strength, so letting him come inside to the traffic. Similarly, when Gross joined, being very happy to cut the pass and make him come back inside.. that's a more feasible plan rather than our lads collectively deciding that they couldn't trust Buonanotte. See the difference with March - Mykelenko had a far more torrid time, dragged players out and created more space for Gross and we looked more threatening.

I think RDZ has to consider his choices here.. hindsight and all that, but Webster at right back would have been a stronger choice and more of a match-up against two physically strong players on the Everton left.

 

[MJsGhost]

Shock horror - abundantly talented, but callow prospect struggles to have impact in a game where pretty much everything around him was off.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I doubt anyone saw us conceding after 30 seconds... that knocked the stuffing out of us and filled Everton with belief. What now looks like a rubbish plan from de Zerbi, would have looked very different without the shock of that first goal.

These things happen and as disappointing as it is, I am still pinching myself that it's May and we've only just had the last remaining hope of a Champions League spot extinguished. How very Brighton that it happened against a bottom 6 team rather than someone actually good.

 

[amexer]

No wonder they didnt pass to him. Passes are made to wide players in hope they create something all they did last night was get the ball back. May have have made mistakes but at least Mitoma tried to create.

 

[AstroSloth]

No wonder they didnt pass to him. Passes are made to wide players in hope they create something all they did last night was get the ball back. May have have made mistakes but at least Mitoma tried to create.

Our best chance in the first half came from a great ball from Buonanotte to the back post, Mitoma squared and Welbeck got his shot blocked.

 

[Wardy's twin]

The fact the players didn't pass to him says all you need to know. They don't think he's ready. On the whole we are excellent at managing every aspect of our young players careers but I do think we need to be careful not to put so much burden on certain youngsters. Someone like Weir, you'd imagine, would be far closer to being ready to deal with the immense physical and emotional pressure of playing regularly in this league. We need to be a club that both provides a sensible long term pathway and offers a real chance of the most talented youngsters being involved in the squad, but we must be aware that most aren't going to be ready. Probably only Ferguson and Enciso genuinely are currently.
He's clearly a very talented kid but I think on this one we probably got it wrong not sending off to play for Argentina. He could have gone to that tournament, been one of its stars and come back absolutely buzzing. Instead he's been hooked at half time in our worst home defeat for a very long time. Yes he'll learn from it but at what cost?
But then who else do we play? It's a balancing act, it's not easy, and we do it get right more often than not, but we also need to be realistic (club and fans).
Having someone like Milner, and maybe another couple of more seasoned pros for next season, will definitely help.

Shouldn't be up to the players, the manager has picked him so they should have been using him and he was in some good positions. Regards letting him go - last night showed the squad is struggling with injuries with games coming thick and fast. Sarmiento would be the one to have been playing but he is injured, if veltman or lamptey were fit they would play and gross would be in midfield. We needed him to stay Webster (and Gross?) ignoring him was just bad play from them.

 

[Wardy's twin]

It looks to me that the other players don't trust him (yet) as there was plenty of times he was free and the others passed across the back or middle towards the left. Was the same on Thursday when nearly every attack went down the left side.

Think players ignoring someone picked by the manager is fundamentally wrong.

 

[Wardy's twin]

With a player, this young and this inexperienced, you need to manage his transition to top level football.

Bring him in, for 20 mins here and there. The odd start, then bring him out, explaining why. We're putting him in like we're relying on him. It's way too much pressure to put on an 18 year old.

I also believe he should be gong off the play under 20 international football

The squad is thread bear at the moment - he did as much as Wellbeck and Undav with a lot less of the ball.

 

[brighton_tom]

Great potential, no doubt he will be a very good player in another year or two, but yesterday was not the game to start him in. He’s needs to be eased into things. He’s still learning the game, and because of his age is a little lightweight against the more physical sides. Enciso or March starting instead would have made us far more effective going forward.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

The standard is set so high with many other quality players that it's only natural that some others will not hit those heights. So I think it's a little unfair that FB is seemingly being almost written off by some posters.

Also, quite why there are posts about Undav's performances in a thread that's nothing to do with him is a little odd, too. No, he's not the most technically gifted player in the squad and is obviously a confidence player, but people (mostly in the ground last night, to be fair) blaming him for EVERYTHING that went wrong last night – even after he'd been subbed! – was just pathetic. Get behind ALL the players in the squad FFS!

 

[Shins]

Looks like he'll be an excellent player. Great ball control and some intricate passing in tight spaces. Learning the ropes out on the right but he'll play centrally as his main position. Not quite got the turn of speed/directness for a winger. Don't get me wrong he'll be a great option on the wing, particularly next season after he's bulked up and spent more time here, but obvious to me he's not quite comfortable.

 

[amexer]

Our best chance in the first half came from a great ball from Buonanotte to the back post, Mitoma squared and Welbeck got his shot blocked.

pleased he did something Like Enrisco Is it known what is his best position. Certainly never looked like or even tried to go past FB

 

[AstroSloth]

pleased he did something Like Enrisco Is it known what is his best position. Certainly never looked like or even tried to go past FB

He went past the fullback multiple times but there was no options for him after that.

Enciso is best wide right cutting in or behind the striker.

Buonanotte is similar but probably best centrally.