You know the player ratings are subjective half the time right? - you only have to look at match threads to see the diversity of opinion on a players match performance and compare the ratings across MSM. FWIW, I think Igor was better than a 6 (BBC rates him as 8th on a 7) but he wasn’t the MOTM for me personally. I think Gross, Mitoma and Hinshelwood had more impact on the overall game.
part of the fun in football is specualting and analysing everything. Discussing him on here is no different to opinions that get chucked around the pubs when talking Albion.
Those BBC ratings are ridiculous... I always ignore them. I would be astonished if anyone actually at the game thought Igor was a 6.
Terrific read that. Glad he is now enjoying his time here. Facundo is definitely improving game by game.
It’s ridiculous how much some fans are expecting from these kids. Ali Mc was miles off a consistent or even effective performer when he started with us at TWO YEARS older than FB.
And he’s had less than one season actually playing for us, when you consider most of his contributions have ( rightly ) been minutes and he didn't debut until February last season afair- plus time out for international duty.
Highlights:
Mac Allister was actually 22 by the time he came back from loan from Boca Juniors, he’d also made over 100 senior appearances in Argentina. Compare that to Facundo who had only turned 18 the month before joining us and had less than 35 senior games under his belt.
Very, very much this.
Not sure this is a helpful comparison. They are totally different players. Even at that age Messi was universally recognised as a prodigy likely to become an all time great. Facu is a promising young player who happens to come from the same country and happens to have a similar build and plays off he same foot. The similarities stop there.It's also worth making the comparison to Messi - whilst it's most likely that FB will never reach his stratospheric heights, at this early age his career was not too dissimilar:
Whilst aged 18 (he's 19 in a few days), FB has played 1,033 minutes of first team football (plus tonight and the next 2 PL games), including European competition, and made his international debut for Argentina (started and played 74 minutes).
Facundo Buonanotte - Detailed stats
These are the detailed performance data of Leicester City player Facundo Buonanotte. The website contains a statistic about the performance data of the player.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
In comparison, whilst aged 18 LM played 1,414 first team minutes for Barcelona, including European competion, and made his international debut for Argentina (getting subbed on at 64', straight red for violent conduct at 65'...)
Lionel Messi - Detailed stats
These are the detailed performance data of Inter Miami CF player Lionel Messi. The website contains a statistic about the performance data of the player.
The whole point of the art of talent scouting is not to find the next Messi or Maradona but to spot someone who has the potential to be one.
Well no. They don't have to be that good do they? They have to be good enough to improve a squad who are between 6th and 10th in the PL. If they are any better, great, we'll sell them for a profit probably.
Well no - no one is saying they do. You misunderstood - The point is, regardless of who a young player is compared with, or whatever level they are at, the scouts are always looking for potential which is harder for the layman to spot than a kid that immediately shines above the rest.
Well no - If Clubs just signed youth players that were ‘good enough improve a squad’ they’d hardly sign anyone from outside their own academy - how many youth players do we know who are good enough to immediately improve a PL squad when they are first spotted as a teenage U18 ‘unknown’ from outside the English PL? Eventually yes, after months of training (sometimes several seasons before making any impact) , bedding in and physical development - that is where scout spotting ‘potential’ comes in and why it is such a skilled profession. They also have to be the right player for the squad - being ‘good enough’ at football for any level isn’t enough (as some of the Big Clubs find out when spending silly millions on the ‘wrong’ players.
Come on - I don’t think anyone is ‘going on’ about Messi - in fact I think it has hardly been mentioned since a few references to Tevez’s comments last summer at the start of the thread.
