[Football] Fabrizio Romano

[dazzer6666]

Looking back I think he was reasonably correct on things - although he was just giving the agent's take on proceedings.

He reports what his sources feed him - no real obligation to do proper "journalism" and get feedback from all sides - which he wouldn't get from tight-lipped albion anyway.

It just may not have been what I wanted to hear ?

He was correct with the information he was being fed from Cucu’s agent at the time, which he embellished with a bit of hyperbole to make his tweets more notable (‘only wants City’ etc etc). Only reporting one side obviously left him open to being wrong……..but he was eventually more or less right so that’ll be forgotten by his army of lemmings

 

[Stat Brother]

He was correct with the information he was being fed from Cucu’s agent at the time, which he embellished with a bit of hyperbole to make his tweets more notable (‘only wants City’ etc etc). Only reporting one side obviously left him open to being wrong……..but he was eventually more or less right so that’ll be forgotten by his army of lemmings

The bit that highlights him, and the drongos that hang on his every word, as tools is the money involved.

Anybody with one functioning brain cell knew £30m was laughable.
Yet he went with that and by association so did his lemmings.

 

[Swansman]

What he's good at is reporting exactly what the agents who talk to him want him to say. If that's a job - helping the most despised people in football - it's an odd one.

The Cucurella saga was actually interesting. People played it as Romano v Naylor but it was really Cucu's agent versus Brighton and Hove Albion's top brass' message. You sort of got to the truth via a combination of both if you were good at reading between the lines. But, ultimately, Romano confirmed the deal at the wrong time for the wrong amount. The fact that there were add ons and that Colwill ended up a loan, neither of which were in Romano's pinned £52.5 million tweet, shows there was still plenty of negotiation being done. FR reported what Mr 10% wanted - and got it wrong. Not sure there's anything "good" about that.

As for unsettling players who've signed five year contracts.......

It is modern journalism in a nutshell, caused by the era of PR and press officers.

Want to find out something about anything? You'll be told to talk to some guy with a long education in the art of saying nothing.

Either you have connections or you won't have any real information.

Naylor is said to be a mouthpiece of the club. Romano is the mouthpiece of various agents. Both of those things are, in the core, completely unacceptable as a journalist working for an allegedly independent media company. Zero journalistic integrity and zero reliability if there was a situation where misdoings from these agents/clubs were to be uncovered, because they can't slaughter their sources without becoming redundant. At the same time, this approach is the only possible one if you want to recieve "secret" information in 2022.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The bit that highlights him, and the drongos that hang on his every word, as tools is the money involved.

Anybody with one functioning brain cell knew £30m was laughable.
Yet he went with that and by association so did his lemmings.

A useful parrot for the agents. Sometimes he's right and sometimes he's wrong.

It's the silly followers who won't hear a word against him than irks me.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

The pretty major bit that he got wrong was his declaration of events he described as fact. Wasn’t the reality that what he was actually describing was the agent’s, player’s and cheapskate buyer’s (City) hopes ? Without that qualification to his reports they weren’t true hence the tweet put out by the Albion late in the day*

*assuming it was aimed at him.

 

[nickbrighton]

Looking back I think he was reasonably correct on things - although he was just giving the agent's take on proceedings.

He reports what his sources feed him - no real obligation to do proper "journalism" and get feedback from all sides - which he wouldn't get from tight-lipped albion anyway.

It just may not have been what I wanted to hear ?

but he wasnt correct was he? He wants to go to man city, he only wants man city, its a deal- all sorted, terms agreed, city making a bid immenently etc for weeks. Then when a bid was made, it was again deal done, and yet in the end it wasnt, he went to chelsea, and even then he got it wrong, saying the deal was done when it wasnt untill the next day

Its hard to see where he was actually right? Club wrong, amount consistently wrong, timings wrong, he actually only got it right after it was announced by everyone else!

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

A useful parrot for the agents. Sometimes he's right and sometimes he's wrong.

It's the silly followers who won't hear a word against him than irks me.

They are weird. Almost like a bunch of religious zealots.

 

[Stat Brother]

The pretty major bit that he got wrong was his declaration of events he described as fact. Wasn’t the reality that what he was actually describing was the agent’s, player’s and cheapskate buyer’s (City) hopes ? Without that qualification to his reports they weren’t true hence the tweet put out by the Albion late in the day*

*assuming it was aimed at him.

I truly can't be arsed to look but this all played out like it was Cucurella's agents first rodeo.

It feels like he got giddy by £30m, City, and/or Pep, spending the week hyperventilating at FR.
A cooler head would have got to £50m+ before even opening his mouth.

It wouldn't surprise me if Mr Agent, isn't around for too long once Cucu is nicely settled in.

 

[Stat Brother]

They are weird. Almost like a bunch of religious zealots.

I thought I was in JonesTown when I dared to speak ill of Fab, to the boy.

 

[Swansman]

but he wasnt correct was he? He wants to go to man city, he only wants man city, its a deal- all sorted, terms agreed, city making a bid immenently etc for weeks. Then when a bid was made, it was again deal done, and yet in the end it wasnt, he went to chelsea, and even then he got it wrong, saying the deal was done when it wasnt untill the next day

Its hard to see where he was actually right? Club wrong, amount consistently wrong, timings wrong, he actually only got it right after it was announced by everyone else!

Judging from other sources who confirmed most of what he was saying after he said it (like Man City making a bid), most appears to be correct. He never said it was a done deal between Brighton and City, always mentioning that Brighton had a higher value on the player than City wanted to bid... which turned out correct.

 

[Swansman]

They are weird. Almost like a bunch of religious zealots.

All these journalists have those kind of fanbases. The Naylorians here are very similar.

 

[B-right-on]

Judging from other sources who confirmed most of what he was saying after he said it (like Man City making a bid), most appears to be correct. He never said it was a done deal between Brighton and City, always mentioning that Brighton had a higher value on the player than City wanted to bid... which turned out correct.

All these journalists have those kind of fanbases. The Naylorians here are very similar.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

All these journalists have those kind of fanbases. The Naylorians here are very similar.

Agreed.

If it wasn't for the Church of Potter, I'd have nothing.

 

[Swansman]

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Red. Casket. Bag.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Red. Casket. Bag.

Is that a Swedish idiom? What does it mean?

 

[nickbrighton]

Judging from other sources who confirmed most of what he was saying after he said it (like Man City making a bid), most appears to be correct. He never said it was a done deal between Brighton and City, always mentioning that Brighton had a higher value on the player than City wanted to bid... which turned out correct.

All these journalists have those kind of fanbases. The Naylorians here are very similar.

i always find it difficult to know if you are simply a sometimes entertaing troll, or you actually believe the drivel you spout

FAB was demonstrably wrong all the way through July,his ITK posts were that City were imminently making a bid- which they werent and eventually did weeks later, he keep saying City was the ONLY club he wanted, and he ONLY wanted to play under Pep- all of which was wrong ,as he ended up at his boyhood dream club Chelsea

He even got it wrong on the night before the transfer, at which point we all knew a deal was close. RyanAdsett was more accurate that Romero when he said the day before I think- Cucu deal wont be completed till the Colwill deal is sorted- he was spot on, FAB was just making guestimates

Yes he gets a lot right but why cant you see, on this one he was completely wrong all the way through, over than in the vaguest terms and was acting as a City provocateur who got burned

The reason the Naylorists as u put it, like him is simply because he checks and reports what is actually happening, not what a particular club, player or agent WANTS to happen

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

As with ITK, people take these guys waaay to seriously.

 

[Stat Brother]

I love the validation.

FR has got to the top of the ladder - well done for that.

FR tweets 'news'.
Those down the ladder looking up then tweet similar 'news'.
Which means all those with no idea what's going on can use all the other stories to valid FR.

Do the know nothings actual think, in the wake of a FR tweet, hundreds of Twitter 'journalists' contact their sources to find out what they know?

It's got nothing to do with being right and EVERYTHING to do with being first.

 

[jcdenton08]

All these journalists have those kind of fanbases. The Naylorians here are very similar.

Once again, as this has been explained to you several times before, the situation with Andy Naylor is very different.

Andy Naylor was the local chief sports reporter for our local newspaper (circulation approx 7,000 daily), and he did this job for 32 and a half years, covering the Albion and other local sport.

During this time, he developed and fostered relationships with three different owners and their operations teams. He covered match reports at the Goldstone Ground, Priestfield Stadium (that’s in Gillingham) and Withdean Stadium, and was the primary source for basically any and all Albion news. Without Naylor’s insight and newspaper copy, Brighton fans could watch 30 seconds of Andy Steggal narrating goal highlights on “Meridian Tonight” per week, or call Seagulls Clubline at £1.99 a minute.

Naylor doesn’t have an exotic name, he isn’t pretending to be Guillem Balague, he is just an honest hard-working and incredibly long-serving local journalist, who was hired for The Athletic solely because of his decades working with and close to the Albion.

Lots of Albion fans are FAR from fans of Andy. He has been snippy to fans previously and some of his editorialising annoyed some people. But there is absolutely no questioning his credentials or experience.

“New media” has created a whole new frontier of journalism. Naylor, as a newspaper hack learning in the 80’s and 90’s was forced to learn journalism as a trade. You know, physically live in the town, ask questions, go to the training ground.

Nowadays, any chancer can declare themselves a “new media journalist”, sit in someone’s back pocket and be leaked “exclusives”. Provided they get enough clicks.

It would be really refreshing, just for once, if you just admitted that this is a subject you know absolutely **** all about. Because it’s painfully clear from your responses. You are superb at winging through with faux-intellectual claptrap on almost any topic.

When you are dealing with someone who knows what they’re talking about, you get rinsed. It’s happening now.

 

[Swansman]

i always find it difficult to know if you are simply a sometimes entertaing troll, or you actually believe the drivel you spout

FAB was demonstrably wrong all the way through July,his ITK posts were that City were imminently making a bid- which they werent and eventually did weeks later, he keep saying City was the ONLY club he wanted, and he ONLY wanted to play under Pep- all of which was wrong ,as he ended up at his boyhood dream club Chelsea

He even got it wrong on the night before the transfer, at which point we all knew a deal was close. RyanAdsett was more accurate that Romero when he said the day before I think- Cucu deal wont be completed till the Colwill deal is sorted- he was spot on, FAB was just making guestimates

Yes he gets a lot right but why cant you see, on this one he was completely wrong all the way through, over than in the vaguest terms and was acting as a City provocateur who got burned

The reason the Naylorists as u put it, like him is simply because he checks and reports what is actually happening, not what a particular club, player or agent WANTS to happen

We had this discussion in the Cucurella thread where you moved the goal posts; if Romano posted something, it was "guesses", and when Naylor posted the same thing a day later, it was the absolute truth uncovered by your hero, and Romano was merely lucky to have got it right the day before.

IMO the only way you could plausibly believe that Romano wasn't recieving information from Cucurellas agents is if you have a shite subscription deal on The Athletic.