[Albion] FA Cup draw round 3 - home v Palace

[Bozza]

Or is it better to have a half filled soulless arena

You mean like Selhurst Park in the Championship before your 10,000 Premier League plastics turned up?

 

[essexeagle]

I really don't understand why any Brighton fan would support this lunacy of a reduced ticket allocation. I don't care what you say, Palace does not have a significant number of hooligan fans. Simple as that. What we do have, is a tiny minority of oiks who can act in an anti-social way at times. But that is a massive difference to trouble fans in the true sense of the word.

If this fixture were the other way around, with Palace at home, I would have been hoping for a full BHA allocation. It would have made for a brilliant atmosphere in a cup tie that I, for one, have been hoping for in the 3rd round draw every year for the last nearly 40 years. We finally get it and it has been ruined by what is seemingly BHAFC and Sussex Police' inability to steward and police the AMEX stadium and its surrounding area adequately.

 

[essexeagle]

You mean like Selhurst Park in the Championship before your 10,000 Premier League plastics turned up?

Pot and kettle spring to mind here.....

 

[Stuart Munday]

I really don't want to get banned from here. I signed up 13 years ago and only post occasionally but tend to look at NSC quite regularly as it's particularly interesting for non football stuff. But I will say what I think about this whole Brighton vs Palace fiasco this season.

Despite your protestations, the AMEX is a nightmare to get to as an away (Palace) fan. I drive all over the country watching Palace. The AMEX is by far the biggest pain in the arse to get to as a driver. The options at your ground for the masses are pretty limited. Really, who wants to sit in a park and ride car park waiting to get out for more than an hour? As a Palace fan, who wants to share a bus with the home masses so risking a confrontation?

What other options are there? Train? Really? Getting kettled by the police and taken on a 90 min march to the ground? having to run the gauntlet at the tiny Falmer station pre and post match? Getting mixed together and spat at by Brighton fans on the platform? (I'm sure it was the same in the other direction before someone says something)

Now we have this ridiculous allocation of 2000 tickets for a cup match. What I can't understand is why? What has actually happened during the last few matches to justify this? As I have said elsewhere, a few oiks took their opportunity to get into the ground the other week without getting searched. They may, or may not have had tickets. We simply don't know. They then let off pyro's inside and nobody does anything about it. Stewards stood by and watched and the police did nothing to to deal with this law breaking that was going on in front of their eyes by people who they could have just walked up and arrested, at least on suspicion of these offences.

Other than that, what has actually happened to justify this reduced allocation? How come other stadiums can accommodate many thousands of away fans at games yet the AMEX can't? How can 8000 fans attend the Liverpool derby? How can Palace accommodate 6000 Brighton fans at Selhurst (5-0) How can we accommodate 7000 Scumwall fans etc etc and yet the AMEX can't accommodate 4000 Palace fans?

I am not saying all our fans are angels. I'm sure you won't be saying the same about Brighton fans either but how can BHAFC not cope with these fan numbers when other clubs can? Crystal Palace are not the most notorious of clubs for fan violence are we? It calls into question, for me at least, as to whether the whole AMEX set up is fit for purpose or not....

Don’t wear colours or act like an idiot then drink in numerous pubs away from the station, get to the ground early, no queuing or kettling. Or go via Lewes loads of decent pubs no kettling.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Pot and kettle spring to mind here.....

Nonsense. We had huge attendances in the championship in a way your fans and owners could only be envious of. First season syndrome wasn't it?

 

[essexeagle]

Nonsense. We had huge attendances in the championship in a way your fans and owners could only be envious of. First season syndrome wasn't it?

I can assure you there is nothing associated with the American Express Community Stadium that I am envious of.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I really don't understand why any Brighton fan would support this lunacy of a reduced ticket allocation. I don't care what you say, Palace does not have a significant number of hooligan fans. Simple as that. What we do have, is a tiny minority of oiks who can act in an anti-social way at times. But that is a massive difference to trouble fans in the true sense of the word.

If this fixture were the other way around, with Palace at home, I would have been hoping for a full BHA allocation. It would have made for a brilliant atmosphere in a cup tie that I, for one, have been hoping for in the 3rd round draw every year for the last nearly 40 years. We finally get it and it has been ruined by what is seemingly BHAFC and Sussex Police' inability to steward and police the AMEX stadium and its surrounding area adequately.

It's to do with not rewarding bad behaviour.

Never before have explosive firecrackers been set off in the crowd at the Amex. Never before have a steward or 2 been put in hospital by away fans.

Those 2 things were always going to lead to a ticketting sanction. To be honest I'm surprised it wasn't a reduction. If the behaviour improves then the allocations will improve, surely ? Show you can be trusted and you will be.

 

[Return of the Rev]

I really don't understand why any Brighton fan would support this lunacy of a reduced ticket allocation. I don't care what you say, Palace does not have a significant number of hooligan fans. Simple as that. What we do have, is a tiny minority of oiks who can act in an anti-social way at times. But that is a massive difference to trouble fans in the true sense of the word.

If this fixture were the other way around, with Palace at home, I would have been hoping for a full BHA allocation. It would have made for a brilliant atmosphere in a cup tie that I, for one, have been hoping for in the 3rd round draw every year for the last nearly 40 years. We finally get it and it has been ruined by what is seemingly BHAFC and Sussex Police' inability to steward and police the AMEX stadium and its surrounding area adequately.

I applaud the decision of reduced away allocation and with this in mind am seriously considering taking my two boys to the game in January.

 

[essexeagle]

It's to do with not rewarding bad behaviour.

Never before have explosive firecrackers been set off in the crowd at the Amex. Never before have a steward or 2 been put in hospital by away fans.

Those 2 things were always going to lead to a ticketting sanction. To be honest I'm surprised it wasn't a reduction. If the behaviour improves then the allocations will improve, surely ? Show you can be trusted and you will be.

And yet 4 days later Liverpool fans are allowed to let off red smoke flares in the same stand?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I can assure you there is nothing associated with the American Express Comminity Stadium that I am envious of.

Bizarre response neatly side-stepping the issue we were discussing.

 

[essexeagle]

I applaud the decision of reduced away allocation and with this in mind am seriously considering taking my two boys to the game in January.

Let's hope they are not sat next to a Palace fan who has been forced to buy a ticket in the home end then eh? The 2000 allocation will achieve nothing and will only add to any potential problems.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

And yet 4 days later Liverpool fans are allowed to let off red smoke flares in the same stand?

I wasn't at that game and I've no idea what happened and what the response will be to that if Liverpool visit again this season.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Let's hope they are not sat next to a Palace fan who has been forced to buy a ticket in the home end then eh? The 2000 allocation will achieve nothing and will only add to any potential problems.

Yeah, it will be BHA and the police's fault if any palace fan misbehaves and chooses to sit in the wrong area of the stadium.

There must be another answer? Oh, I know stay at home and watch on the telly.

 

[Return of the Rev]

Let's hope they are not sat next to a Palace fan who has been forced to buy a ticket in the home end then eh? The 2000 allocation will achieve nothing and will only add to any potential problems.

At 6'2 & 6'5 they'll take their chances

 

[Wozza]

The 2000 allocation will achieve nothing and will only add to any potential problems.

*yawn* Again, the allocation for the play-off was 2000 - and there were no problems.

It's not an excuse for unrest. You just need to learn to behave.

 

[Wozza]

I can assure you there is nothing associated with the American Express Community Stadium that I am envious of.

You really won't like your new stand then!

 

[essexeagle]

You really won't like your new stand then!

But at least we will be able to get to the ground and away afterwards without the ballache you lot have to put up with....

 

[Bozza]

But at least we will be able to get to the ground and away afterwards without the ballache you lot have to put up with....

27,000 home fans week in and week out do just fine.

The fans of numerous other clubs wax lyrical about their day out at the Amex, the friendliness, how good the whole setup is and how they can't wait to come back.

One group of fans disagrees. We'll live with that.

 

[essexeagle]

27,000 home fans week in and week out do just fine.

The fans of numerous other clubs wax lyrical about their day out at the Amex, the friendliness, how good the whole setup is and how they can't wait to come back.

One group of fans disagrees. We'll live with that.

And it's all great. 'The friendliness, how good the whole setup is and how we can't wait to come back' are the first things I thought of about the AMEX as well! That's clearly why the ground empties with 15 mins to go. I'm pleased you are all so happy with it.

See you on 8th Jan.....

 

[The Fifth Column]

I can assure you there is nothing associated with the American Express Community Stadium that I am envious of.

I can assure you there is nothing associated with Selhurst Park that I am envious of. A much easier statement to believe.