FA approach hodgson westbrom give permission to talk!!

[Tricky Dicky]

It's about time we won a tournament and I think Harry would have done a decent job.

I agree it's everdue, but unfortunately the chance of doing that in the short-term is as near to zero as makes no difference. No chance this summer, less than zero chance in the WC in Brazil (you can hear the excuses now ... too hot, too tired etc.). Don't know where the next Euros are, but little chance in the Russian WC or in Qatar.

 

[Perfidious Albion]

Before all the hype about Harry, I was strongly in favour of Hodgson for England - let the doubters consider a manager who has

1] managed national teams before, taking Switzerland to the Euro finals
2] managed Inter Milan and taken them to the UEFA Cup Final
3] taken Fulham to the Europa League Final
4] was U K League manager of the year 2010

I have always maintained that National team managing is very different to club management ...so I ought to be pleased....

But it would have been fun with Redknapp !

 

[Albumen]

Liverpool was a poisoned chalice whoever took that job at that time. Dalglish's league record is probably worse than Hodgson's!

That's a different argument though. The players like playing Dalglish's style of play. And hitting the woodwork over 30 times is a little odd so I think he's been a bit unlucky not to be a bit higher. His buying has been a bit woeful though.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Before all the hype about Harry, I was strongly in favour of Hodgson for England - let the doubters consider a manager who has

1] managed national teams before, taking Switzerland to the World Cup finals and Euro finals
2] managed Inter Milan and taken them to the UEFA Cup Final
3] taken Fulham to the Europa League Final
4] was U K League manager of the year 2010

I have always maintained that National team managing is very different to club management ...so I ought to be pleased....

But it would have been fun with Redknapp !

slight edit for accuracy.

 

[Big Jim]

Have to say, he's a good choice in terms of experience and qualifications and personally think it'll be a good appointment. But the only thing is he's not the fans choice, and we all know what'll happen when results don't go the right way........

 

[Uncle Buck]

Could any manager survive a repeat of Euro '88 these days? As I've said all along I don't think Roy will be a disaster. There is always that niggling 'what-if' about England though. What if they'd have given it to Clough ? What-if they'd given Venables the chance to take England to a World Cup? What-if Hoddle had just shut the f*** up about disabled people?

Cappelo survived a similar farce in 2010, yes we did win a game, but we were shocking.

 

[Bold Seagull]

That's a different argument though. The players like playing Dalglish's style of play. And hitting the woodwork over 30 times is a little odd so I think he's been a bit unlucky not to be a bit higher. His buying has been a bit woeful though.

West Brom are just 3 points below Liverpool in a more than credible 10th with 46 points. While Lambert and Rogers rightly get credit, again, as with Fulham Hodgson has taken relegation favourites to a top 10 side. He's done another incredible job this season.

Now in real terms, England ARE a West Brom or Fulham of international football. In all honesty, it isn't like a top job at all, it needs someone who can take a group of players and get them to improve as a team. He's proven at this both at club and international level already.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Harry's lack of experience in European football didn't seem to make much difference in the Champions League last season when Spurs dumped Inter and AC Milan on their arses.

I'm willing to cut Hodgson some slack re his Liverpool experience - Harry didn't exactly set the world alight at Southampton either. I can just imagine the top England players currently texting each other a variant of the message - "Woy - wtf?"

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Have to say, he's a good choice in terms of experience and qualifications and personally think it'll be a good appointment. But the only thing is he's not the fans choice, and we all know what'll happen when results don't go the right way........

Was he the fans choice though ? I know he was the medias choice, or at least them saying he was the fans choice, but I've spoken to very few people who actually wanted Harry and any thread on here has very little support for him.

 

[Big Jim]

True. Certainly the media's choice, think a lot of players and managers were outspoken for him also.

Regarding fans. I suppose apart from forums that's difficult to gauge. Certainly listening to talk sport at the time Capello left, most were for him apart from Tottenham fans.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

West Brom are just 3 points below Liverpool in a more than credible 10th with 46 points. While Lambert and Rogers rightly get credit, again, as with Fulham Hodgson has taken relegation favourites to a top 10 side. He's done another incredible job this season.

Now in real terms, England ARE a West Brom or Fulham of international football. In all honesty, it isn't like a top job at all, it needs someone who can take a group of players and get them to improve as a team. He's proven at this both at club and international level already.

No we bloody well aren't. Jeesus. Is that all you want from England, the equivalent of 'mid-table' security? It's not only about taking a group of players and getting them to improve as a team, its about getting a group of bloody-talented footballers and making them gel as a team and perform in the most high-profile games they will ever play in. You may have noticed that the World Cup is massive. Getting Fulham 10th is making sure you beat the likes of Bolton and Everton at home and grinding out draws away at Villa and Stoke.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

True. Certainly the media's choice, think a lot of players and managers were outspoken for him also.

Regarding fans. I suppose apart from forums that's difficult to gauge. Certainly listening to talk sport at the time Capello left, most were for him apart from Tottenham fans.

There's your problem, right there.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

My problem with Hodgson is that I can't see this present crop of players responding to his management style or tactics.

The players made it clear they'd be happy with Redknapp. You could see the likes of Rooney, Lampard, Terry, Parker upping their game for England, not to mention getting performances from peripheral players he's worked with like Defoe, Crouch, Rio, Glen Johnson, Carrick. Who knows - maybe even the likes of Joe Cole might have come back into the mix?

I couldn't give a f*** about Burton, or Stuart Pearce's future. It's about time we won a tournament and I think Harry would have done a decent job.

Agree man management of England's "stars" is the big worry over the appointment but let's give him a chance. I would have liked to have seen Harry given the job but there we are. I'm afraid if you think England have a serious chance of winning Euro 2012 you're going to be disappointed. We just haven't got the players.

Burton is important and way over due.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Harry is screwed, he backed himself to get the England job so much he has alienated himself at Spurs, Levy is going to sack him in the Summer no matter where we finished, he knows this.

Redknapp is a chancer, anyone that wanted him as England manger needs mental help, he has managed to turn one of the most feared Left Wingers into a shite CM

His formations and selections at times at Spurs have reminded me of Mcghee's, its good to see his formation hat has been handed on to a new manager.

His comments are disrespectful and retarded, but thats why the media love him

 

[Silent Bob]

True. Certainly the media's choice, think a lot of players and managers were outspoken for him also.

Regarding fans. I suppose apart from forums that's difficult to gauge. Certainly listening to talk sport at the time Capello left, most were for him apart from Tottenham fans.

Now most Tottenham fans wish he would go to England...

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

O and his so called "man management" is shite, annoy him once and you will never play for him again even if the player in question benifits the team.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Hodgson is a PROFESSOR of the game.

I remember watching the 2010 world cup coverage and they asked the panel what they thought about the group games.

People such as Shearer and Hansen came out with in-depth analysis such as "Yeah, well they'll destroy algeria and USA are easy so England will be fine".

It then came to Roy who proceeded to go into the various altitudes of the stadiums and how they compared to the nations England were due to play. He came to the conclusion that we may tire quicker than the americans in our first match. He then reeled off a history of games where European teams have struggled to break down the african counterparts and insisted that Algeria would adopt a man-marking policy to frustrate Wayne Rooney.

He got it spot on. This of course has no real showing of how the players will take to him, but i felt it showed he is a THINKER.

Good 'ol 'arry would probably say against Germany "Alwight lads. Go out there and tackle them and then run at them. do it for england!"

Roy will give each player a specific job and will be maticulous in his planning.

He has a proven record with underdogs. We obviously in the wider context of international football are VERY good, but we always fall when we meet a big fish. Roy will work a gameplan in those situations.

 

[Silent Bob]

His comments are disrespectful and retarded, but thats why the media love him

There are few things that are quite as nauseating as the hacks sycophantic hysterics at a Redknapp press conference when he comes out with his home spun bullshit.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

The odds are out for Hodgsons replacement at Fulham.

Report: Hughton on Baggies radar | News

Houghton looking most likely ATM.

 

[Bold Seagull]

No we bloody well aren't. Jeesus. Is that all you want from England, the equivalent of 'mid-table' security? It's not only about taking a group of players and getting them to improve as a team, its about getting a group of bloody-talented footballers and making them gel as a team and perform in the most high-profile games they will ever play in. You may have noticed that the World Cup is massive. Getting Fulham 10th is making sure you beat the likes of Bolton and Everton at home and grinding out draws away at Villa and Stoke.

I've not made that as a comparison of ambition, that is a comparison of achievement. England are an average international team that don't qualify for a major tournament every decade, rarely get past the 1/4 finals if they ever get that far.

Where are these 'bloody-talented footballers'? They are the most overrated bunch in football. Gerrard, Lampard, Cole, Rooney, Terry, Ferdinand etc. we talk them up like they're world beaters, but they're not. Technically they are inferior to many other international footballers. How many Champions League or European club medals have they won between them? When it comes to playing against Europe's technical elite, how good have these 'bloody-talented' footballers been even at club level? I'll tell you how many - 3.

It's all hype. We've hyped them up beyond any reasonable level where we actually believe Ashley Cole is the best left back in the world, Terry is one of the best centre halves, Rooney is the one of the best centre forwards. It's all hype. The reality is Lampard and Gerrard are not great international players. They might have the odd good game, but they've rarely dominated games. Rooney isn't prolific, and Terry and Ferdinand are any decent forwards dream. They're good players, but not world class, Rooney perhaps could be.

The England job is almost unworkable because of this expectation. Because we think that we have the best players. It's absolute bollocks it really is.

I'd like Hodgson to take over because I feel he would get the best out of them. They need bringing down to earth, to play as a team again. The only time I ever really saw England play as a team was Euro '96. It just clicked. After the Switzerland game, they got better and better. Hoddle nearly got them to a similar place in '98, however since then, we really have been shit and gone to every tournament thinking we can win it. Got to go there with ambition and belief, but it has to be based on something more than 'we're a bloody talented group of footballers'...