[Other Sport] F1 2022

[Frutos]

Please keep this on topic.

 

[Bry Nylon]

This is exciting, we need a full safety car

I don’t deny that safety cars make for exciting racing but they really do introduce a completely artificial dynamic into Grand Prix. It’s like some bloke winning the London marathon by 2 miles then making him wait at Buckingham Palace so the rest of the field can catch up for a sprint finish down the Mall. Exciting but kind of undermines all that has gone before

 

[Creaky]

The Biggest whinger today is undoubtably Max, sorry Mouldy and Creaky your boy is struggling

He was, could only finish 7th

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Well, not a result to really help a tighter championship, but great racing from Lando and a race with more Haas overtakes than they could have ever of dreamed of.

We needed George to beat Lewis and the no2's at RB and Ferrari to beat Max.

At least the midfield is very competitive this year, right to the end of the race.

 

[Guinness Boy]

A very enjoyable race in the end and well done Charles. Another under the radar haul of points for Merc will please Lewis, George and Toto, but clear that car is still some way off (especially if you put it in a barrier on the Friday )

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Fun race.

Overtakes everywhere. Bad luck for Sainz and Perez. I enjoyed Schumacher's race(not sure I've ever said that), that's the second race in a row where he looks to have leveled up. Gasly on the other hand seems to be having a rather poor season.

 

[jakarta]

I don't like it, but it is logical and better to communicate for everyone.

Or the modern day fans can't read their programme and follow where the car is?

 

[dolphins]

Apparently all three drivers on the podium have been summoned to the stewards for a breach of the regs:

https://wtf1.com/post/leclerc-verstappen-and-hamilton-have-been-summoned-to-the-stewards-after-austrian-gp/

 

[dolphins]

Update:

Leclerc, Verstappen and Hamilton were all found to have broken Article 12.2.1. of the FIA Sporting Code and have been fined €10,000 each, after they were found guilty of a having “Driver Assistants in Parc Ferme”.

The decision document stated that: “The Stewards received a report from the Media Delegate, which was subsequently confirmed by video evidence, that the physio/drivers’ assistants of the top three finishers entered Parc Ferme without permission and in violation of the procedure that was published prior to the race “for the orderly conduct of the event.”

“In part this is to prevent handing over of items to the drivers prior to them being weighed.

“[Each] Competitor is fined €10,000, which will be suspended for the remainder of the season pending any further violation of the procedure, and the competitors are warned that the passes of the individuals concerned may be revoked in case of systemic violation.”

 

[maltaseagull]

No, I am clearly here.



No wasps are being chewed here.



Lewis was cheating and moaning so he does have a point.

Poor Carlos and Sergio today. The safety car will make it exciting again.

I missed the race as I was watching the tennis.
Did Lewis beat Russell because his car was better as usual?
Or was that what you referred to as cheating?

 

[sjamesb3466]

Enjoyable race today although I found the number of drivers being penalised or given warnings for track limits a bit farcical. Surely they could put a rougher/sausage kerb in to prevent this as it's not a good look for so many drivers having time penalties.

Ferrari reliability will cost them a proper attempt at the title this season although they do seem to have made a step forward with race pace over the last couple of week. Their straight line speed is immense

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I missed the race as I was watching the tennis.
Did Lewis beat Russell because his car was better as usual?
Or was that what you referred to as cheating?

Lewis did manage to beat George today by default as George was silly by taking Sergio clean out.

Lewis was moaning when he got Black and White flagged as he exceeded track limits, it wasn't fair because others were doing it.
He didn't want to trust officials, big chip still affecting him, I thought he would have had his head together by now, that is Lewis though even at 37 years old.

 

[A1X]

If you want to stop cars going wide, put more gravel traps out. So many tracks these days are just painted lines on three square miles of tarmac they get used to not suffering for it.

 

[Guinness Boy]

If you want to stop cars going wide, put more gravel traps out. So many tracks these days are just painted lines on three square miles of tarmac they get used to not suffering for it.

Austria is an odd track like that.

It has gravel traps all the way through the middle section, yet at turns 1, 9 and 10 where it can get really tasty or you can gain a massive advantage, there isn't one, while at three the trap is so far up the hill Edmund Hillary would do well to reach it.

 

[Creaky]

Enjoyable race today although I found the number of drivers being penalised or given warnings for track limits a bit farcical. Surely they could put a rougher/sausage kerb in to prevent this as it's not a good look for so many drivers having time penalties.

Ferrari reliability will cost them a proper attempt at the title this season although they do seem to have made a step forward with race pace over the last couple of week. Their straight line speed is immense

The object of such measures would be to dissuade drivers from exceeding track limits, exactly the same as issuing penalties. Physical obstacles, (sausage kerbs, walls, gravel), however allow no room for error and have a knock-on effect of damaging cars and in many cases forcing retirement. Track limits allow a full car width over the white line, something which is caused by a deliberate action from the driver in order to reduce lap times to a minimum, if they exceed those limits then it is driver error. Essentially drivers were warned for each of the first three errors before receiving a penalty on the fourth, plenty of time to adjust. A physical deterrent could well retire a car on the first error.

Drivers and teams knew that track limits were going to be strictly enforced in Austria therefore they have no grounds for complaint when drivers misjudged the limits and exceeded them. The majority of drivers didn't receive penalties as they kept to the rules - unfair to penalise them by allowing others to gain an advantage without any penalty.

Personally I like to see the rules being enforced but would prefer the penalty to be a "drive through" within two laps of the penalty being given so that the positions on the track were the real placings in the race.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Enjoyed the race. Agree with [MENTION=27275]Creaky[/MENTION], exceeding track limits allows for drivers to make a mistake or take avoiding action without breaking their car. The difficulty is monitoring when drivers are repeating the offense. Seemed like race control were giving sufficient warnings, like a ref telling a player he's totted up tackles and a yellow card is coming.

Mercedes have definitely made big improvements and now look to have distanced the rest of the field, but it seems like Ferrari and RB are also making sufficient improvements to stay well ahead of them. The Merc can leave the rest of the field in their wake, even with a 5 sec penalty and nose change / damage for Russell, but can't make a significant challenged on Ferrari or RB.

Seems like Haas has now joined Alpine and McLaren as best of the rest, and some great battles during the race. Schumacher, Ocon and Norris all in better form than their team mates it would seem.

 

[Weststander]

Some unwelcome stuff around the last GP.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Is anyone watching

Quite exciting going into Q3 with Ferrari on fire.

Quick switch it on!

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I'm tryingwatch but my stream keeps cutting out.

I saw Sainz was top of Q2 by 9 tenths. What was going on there?

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I'm tryingwatch but my stream keeps cutting out.

I saw Sainz was top of Q2 by 9 tenths. What was going on there?

Not sure I think he had new tyres, but he was quick.

Cracking lap from Lando and with the Ferrari, RB, Merc, and McClaren all in the top 5. Sainz was the tow man in Q3 a bit of a sickener for him really.

Should be a great race though.