I'd imagine that if anyone were to decide not to go the the Albion game, in favour of watching the race, will be more than a little macked off, if MV takes Hamilton out on the first bend!
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I'd imagine that if anyone were to decide not to go the the Albion game, in favour of watching the race, will be more than a little macked off, if MV takes Hamilton out on the first bend!
FatSuperman
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I find it crazy to criticise someone for making a stand against something that clearly exists in the world and is clearly a negative force. Racism isn't politics unless you are a racist.
I've seen plenty of other drivers be talked down for non-driving factors by armchair fans over the years. I'd argue the vast majority will quite happily accept that Hamilton is one of the best ever. That doesn't force them to like him as a personality, and it's not automatically about race if someone does dislike him. Absolutely agree that for those few where the dislike of the person carries over into talking down his driving ability is wrong, but you'll always have those few no matter the sport or the person. I've not heard the term much over here, but in Aus we used to call it "tall poppy syndrome": the tendency for those who aren't successful to want to bring down the successful to their own level.
Agreed about not liking the same. I have never liked Jackie Stewart and would never describe him as likeable, dull man up his own arse imo
I like “characters” like Mansell, Hamilton, and especially Hunt ( although I imagine he could be a right little shit in real life) and to a lesser degree Button.
Max is a fabulous driver but not in the least bit likeable or charismatic
I know what you mean about JYS, although I have met him, he's ok.
Most of the drivers are selfish self centred and live in this legends bubble. Some of them lighten up after retirement, some of them live of their reputation as a winner and cling to it like a leech. Derek Bell is a good example of that, a facade and right C*** behind it.
SM and Tony Dron were both gentlemen Darren Turner, a lovely down to earth guy too.
Bold Seagull
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This is the point really and very much has been at times on this thread.
I recall Hakkinen was often lambasted for being a bit of a drone / boring in interviews. Raikkonen as well. For Hakkinen in particular, the longer you watched him the more obvious it became that he has a very well developed sense of humour that can blindside you in its delivery.
In a similar vein, Michael Schumacher early in his career was often seen as being mightily arrogant. Which, to be fair, he really was - but certainly later in his career (in particular his second career at Merc) I felt that he started letting more of the character underneath that arrogance surface, and while I never liked him, he became less unlikable - especially once I realised that an awful lot of his success came to a supreme work ethic that elevated what probably wasn't the best raw talent on the grid into something so frequently unbeatable. I'm in a similar place with Hamilton: certain aspects of his personality grated me the wrong way when he was younger. Those elements still exist, but he's become more mature and rounded as the years have passed and I'll happily tip my hat to the good he's trying to do. I just won't be able to like him (unless I actually meet him one day and it turns out in person he doesn't grate me).
To be honest, in Formula 1 I think that's typical of the real greats. The very aspects of their make up that allow them to be so very, very good at driving very, very fast are the same aspects that can make them unlikable personalities. It's very easy to misinterpret supreme confidence in one's own abilities as "arrogance", especially when coupled with a singular focus on winning and being the best.
Verstappen though: he's just a knob. A supremely talented knob, but a knob nevertheless
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In a similar vein, Michael Schumacher early in his career was often seen as being mightily arrogant. Which, to be fair, he really was - but certainly later in his career (in particular his second career at Merc) I felt that he started letting more of the character underneath that arrogance surface, and while I never liked him, he became less unlikable - especially once I realised that an awful lot of his success came to a supreme work ethic that elevated what probably wasn't the best raw talent on the grid into something so frequently unbeatable. I'm in a similar place with Hamilton: certain aspects of his personality grated me the wrong way when he was younger. Those elements still exist, but he's become more mature and rounded as the years have passed and I'll happily tip my hat to the good he's trying to do. I just won't be able to like him (unless I actually meet him one day and it turns out in person he doesn't grate me).
To be honest, in Formula 1 I think that's typical of the real greats. The very aspects of their make up that allow them to be so very, very good at driving very, very fast are the same aspects that can make them unlikable personalities. It's very easy to misinterpret supreme confidence in one's own abilities as "arrogance", especially when coupled with a singular focus on winning and being the best.
Verstappen though: he's just a knob. A supremely talented knob, but a knob nevertheless
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Although some might just want to watch the world burn on social media when it happens
Its highly likely the race, or championship will be over, bar the court case before we kick off sao it will be an action packed Sunday afternoon.
Just hope the right spuds players are ruled out Sporting plague vs FC fragilico should be an even competition then
Just hope the right spuds players are ruled out Sporting plague vs FC fragilico should be an even competition then
GREASED WEASEL
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i watched the saudi race on my phone while queueing up for a Stranglers gig in Toulouse
you can do both
Icy Gull
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i watched the saudi race on my phone while queueing up for a Stranglers gig in Toulouse
you can do both
I think my leaping up at the Amex in joy or anger during the game may be out of sync with what’s happening on the pitch though
Nobby Cybergoat
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I think my leaping up at the Amex in joy or anger during the game may be out of sync with what’s happening on the pitch though
But if you yelled "FFS, he's deliberately crashed into him. Just taken him out on purpose!!!!" There's a chance that could be a relevant comment
227 BHA
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Looks like we’ll be able to watch the race after all
Hamilton DNF 4/1
I was discussing this with a Dutch colleague this week. All Verstappen has to do is force Hamilton out and the title is his, with the race official to make the final determination. Got to be a big chance of this happening, surely Shirley?
pasty
A different kind of pasty
Surprised it's that long tbh
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
LH needs Bottas to achieve another front row lock out, then just stay ahead in the race. Shouldn’t have all the safety car, restarts, virtual SCs of the last race.
Papa Lazarou
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If Bottas can start 2nd on the grid, it's hid job to stop MV from diving down the inside of LH at the 1st corner and driving LH off the road. Shame it's come to this.