[Misc] F1 2021

[The Wizard]

That is exceptionally poor from Russell, to go other to another driver still sitting in his crashed car and slap him on the helmet. Woeful behaviour.

Bottas moved slightly right in the incident but for we haven’t seen any good angles yet, my initial thought was Russel dipped a tyre into the grass probably partly due to the move from VB

 

[Thompson720]

Praying right now the top 3 stays as it is. Sainz into 3rd would be sentimental next to Norris, but they all deserve it really

 

[dangull]

Hamilton fights back to get 2nd. Its already a 2 driver battle to be world champion.

 

[Weststander]

Anyone here recall another driver stopping at crash barriers in gravel, yet maintaining drive, reversing out and finishing a race?

To me, that’s always end of race.

 

[Icy Gull]

Anyone here recall another driver stopping at crash barriers in gravel, yet maintaining drive, reversing out and finishing a race?

To me, that’s always end of race.

Would have been without the race being red flagged in fairness. Bottas crash reminded me of Piquet crashing in Singapore to benefit Alonso, not that I’m saying the Bottas crash was deliberate though

 

[The Wizard]

Would have been without the race being red flagged in fairness.

He also may have won if it wasn’t for the idiotic blue flag rules that currently stink F1 out, we had Verstappen and Hamilton both having to go out onto the wet piece of track to overtake backmarkers, Lewis should probably my have been a bit more patient than going there but he needed to get past at some point.

It seems bizarre to me that leaders have to risk crashing out to pass cars they are trying to lap, I always thought the lapped cars were meant to move off of the racing line

 

[Weststander]

Would have been without the race being red flagged in fairness.

Sticking my question, have you ever seen a static crashed F1 car in gravel against a barrier, where the driver managed to maintain drive and reverse it out of the hellhole?

I can’t recall that.

 

[Icy Gull]

Sticking my question, have you ever seen a static crashed F1 car in gravel against a barrier, where the driver managed to maintain drive and reverse it out of the hellhole?

I can’t recall that.

Nope

 

[Icy Gull]

He also may have won if it wasn’t for the idiotic blue flag rules that currently stink F1 out, we had Verstappen and Hamilton both having to go out onto the wet piece of track to overtake backmarkers, Lewis should probably my have been a bit more patient than going there but he needed to get past at some point.

It seems bizarre to me that leaders have to risk crashing out to pass cars they are trying to lap, I always thought the lapped cars were meant to move off of the racing line

Hamilton made a mistake, end of imo. He got lucky with the red flagged race. Max drove a great race from start to finish with one bit of luck where he nearly stuffed it. Lewis drove brilliantly after his “incident”

 

[Weststander]

That is exceptionally poor from Russell, to go other to another driver still sitting in his crashed car and slap him on the helmet. Woeful behaviour.

Bottas moved slightly right in the incident but for we haven’t seen any good angles yet, my initial thought was Russel dipped a tyre into the grass probably partly due to the move from VB

Just watched that for the first time, on C4.

Bottas slightly changed line them correctly moved back. Then, Russell simply lost all control.

Seemed a jumped up little shit with the helmet tap. Imho.

 

[Weststander]

Nope

Neither of not knowing how to operate an F1 car , I’m wondering if that was amazing quick thinking and roadcraft by LH in preventing a stall?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Sticking my question, have you ever seen a static crashed F1 car in gravel against a barrier, where the driver managed to maintain drive and reverse it out of the hellhole?

I can’t recall that.

Keeping the car in the race, presumably legally, is as good a piece of technique as pulling off a three wide overtake at 200 mph. Another reason Sir Lewis is the GOAT.


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[Icy Gull]

Neither of not knowing how to operate an F1 car , I’m wondering if that was amazing quick thinking and roadcraft by LH in preventing a stall?

Calm head to do that too

 

[Guinness Boy]

Just watched that for the first time, on C4.

Bottas slightly changed line them correctly moved back. Then, Russell simply lost all control.

Seemed a jumped up little shit with the helmet tap. Imho.

Russell’s interview post race was telling. I’m paraphrasing, but basically “I wonder if he’d have done that to another driver?”. That was mine and my son’s discussion during the long red flag break. The last thing Bottas in a Merc needs is to be overtaken or beaten by Russell in a Williams.


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[Weststander]

Keeping the car in the race, presumably legally, is as good a piece of technique as pulling off a three wide overtake at 200 mph. Another reason Sir Lewis is the GOAT.


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I missed Sky, so just listening to Coultard etc on C4 right now. They haven’t praised that keeping the car alive and reversing out of the hellhole yet.

To me, it’s unprecedented.

I have recollections of Vettel and every other driver climbing out, punching something and storming back to the pits when it happened to them. Repeatedly.

Hamilton hasn’t crashed out of a race since 2018.

 

[The Wizard]

Hamilton made a mistake, end of imo. He got lucky with the red flagged race. Max drove a great race from start to finish with one bit of luck where he nearly stuffed it. Lewis drove brilliantly after his “incident”

It was a mistake but that Doesn’t really answer the point I’m trying to make though, when there is a clear dry racing line, why should the leaders be forced to go onto wet sections of track to pass? It’s nonsensical, imagine that happened in the final race of the season with the title in the line and either one crashed out.

Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t backmarkers meant to move off the racing line for the leaders?

 

[Icy Gull]

It was a mistake but that Doesn’t really answer the point I’m trying to make though, when there is a clear dry racing line, why should the leaders be forced to go onto wet sections of track to pass? It’s nonsensical, imagine that happened in the final race of the season with the title in the line and either one crashed out.

Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t backmarkers meant to move off the racing line for the leaders?

Yes but they do have to be allowed time to move over they can’t just vanish. All part of racing and Lewis got a little impatient imo. It’s the same for all cars being lapped by the leaders.

Anyway my point is that Lewis made an uncharacteristic error, credit to Max for profiting

 

[Madafwo]

Just watched that for the first time, on C4.

Bottas slightly changed line them correctly moved back. Then, Russell simply lost all control.

Seemed a jumped up little shit with the helmet tap. Imho.

Seems to be a relative 50/50 split amongst the professional drivers I've seen comment on it. From what I've seen/heard Bottas just gave a little nudge to the right to put the frighteners on Russell and it worked, unfortunately for Bottas it worked to the point it took him out of the race as well. Karma.

Nowt wrong with the afters either from my point of view, it was a light tap on the helmet of another racer after Bottas had given his point of view. I'd rather see that as it shows passion, rather than shrug of the shoulders and slinking off to the truck.

 

[Weststander]

Seems to be a relative 50/50 split amongst the professional drivers I've seen comment on it. From what I've seen/heard Bottas just gave a little nudge to the right to put the frighteners on Russell and it worked, unfortunately for Bottas it worked to the point it took him out of the race as well. Karma.

Nowt wrong with the afters either from my point of view, it was a light tap on the helmet of another racer after Bottas had given his point of view. I'd rather see that as it shows passion, rather than shrug of the shoulders and slinking off to the truck.

The C4 team felt post race that Bottas didn’t do that at all, 100% a Russell blunder.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

That's a second very enjoyable race out of two for the season. I really hope it continues. Great drives from Verstappen and Norris, masterful comeback from Hamilton from a position where he was nose first in a barrier and to all intents and purposes out of the race. Spins and crashes aplenty. As long as no one gets injured I'm all for it!

Personally think Russell was at fault for his and Bottas's crash but then I'm not an expert. It looked like there was enough room for him to pass but he lost control.