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Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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I only wonder where that energy came from to create that bang, not just energy but enough energy to create the universe and secondly there was no physical matter in the universe, where did the matter come from to create that enormous explosion Just a thought.
Where God got all the rocks and stuff from to make the earth? (To say nothing of all the other stars and planets in the Cosmos). Just a thought.
 




00snook

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Aug 20, 2007
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That is the underlying argument intention and purpose. I have an opinion but one that is mocked nowadays, so not today. But one thing we do agree is Brighton til I die. Unless of course you are Palarse.

Its the underlying argument of intention and purpose that I fundamentally disagree with in regards to what the professor says. So for me he may be a bright man but he isn't quite on the money.

Would be interested to know what your view is, but if you don't want to share on NSC that is totally understandable.

Definitely Brighton till I die though, and I guess for you maybe Brighton in the afterlife also? In my case it will be just till I die though :)
 




00snook

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Aug 20, 2007
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You can not believe in science and God. And just because he does doesn't make the existence of God more probable.

More to the point magoo you don't need to "believe" in science. It doesn't take any faith. Science is testable and is able to prove or disprove most of its theories over time. When science is wrong it changes its mind.

Religion requires faith to "believe" in what it says because there is little to no actual evidence that most of its claims have or ever will happen.

Therefore it is unnecessary to "believe" in science, so I would argue that you can be scientific and also religious at the same time.

To clarify, you have belief in god, but an understanding of science. I would say that a huge number of people fall into this category.
 


You can not believe in science and God. And just because he does doesn't make the existence of God more probable.

Depends on your definition of god. I would say it is very easy to believe in both, just not the Judeo-Christian version.
 




Silk

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May 4, 2012
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I've read Lennox's book "God's undertaker". Suffice it to say that he is mistaken on several important points. But then,so is Richard Dawkins.
 








Bwian

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Jul 14, 2003
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Where God got all the rocks and stuff from to make the earth? (To say nothing of all the other stars and planets in the Cosmos). Just a thought.

And who made god?
 


simmo

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Feb 8, 2008
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Where God got all the rocks and stuff from to make the earth? (To say nothing of all the other stars and planets in the Cosmos). Just a thought.

As Albert Einstein told the world energy and mass are inter changable. All the mass (stars/planets/earth) in the universe was once energy, at the very early stages of the big bang.

A nuclear bomb converts mass into energy....so the thoery goes that the reverse happened at the initial stages of the big bang and that energy was converted into mass.

Your next question though will be where did the energy come from well no-one really knows....however, there have been theories that our universe sits on a membrane and that our universe is part of a multiverse (the best anology I think is that our universe sits on one piece of sliced bread in a loaf) and it is our membrane (bit of silced bread) and another membrane (another bit of sliced bread) colliding that caused the energy that started off the big bang (however, this is just one theory).
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I only wonder where that energy came from to create that bang, not just energy but enough energy to create the universe and secondly there was no physical matter in the universe, where did the matter come from to create that enormous explosion Just a thought.
It's a fair point. I don't suppose we'll ever know. But it wasn't 9,000 years ago.
 








Where God got all the rocks and stuff from to make the earth? (To say nothing of all the other stars and planets in the Cosmos). Just a thought.

There is an argument that as for all matter in the universe there is anti-matter, and for all energy, dark energy, then the total sum of the universe is zero as everything cancels out. Therefore the 'stuff' didn't have to come from anywhere, it is simply the equal plus and minus around zero.
 




Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
As Albert Einstein told the world energy and mass are inter changable. All the mass (stars/planets/earth) in the universe was once energy, at the very early stages of the big bang.

A nuclear bomb converts mass into energy....so the thoery goes that the reverse happened at the initial stages of the big bang and that energy was converted into mass.

Your next question though will be where did the energy come from well no-one really knows....however, there have been theories that our universe sits on a membrane and that our universe is part of a multiverse (the best anology I think is that our universe sits on one piece of sliced bread in a loaf) and it is our membrane (bit of silced bread) and another membrane (another bit of sliced bread) colliding that caused the energy that started off the big bang (however, this is just one theory).

I'm going to call Hovis-maybe they can shed some light on things.
 










Bwian

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Jul 14, 2003
15,898


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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The immaculate bit is when the god impregnates a married virgin wife of a carpenter.

Do try to keep up old boy

No it's not. The conception referred to in "the immaculate conception" is the conception of the virgin mary, not of jesus. The immaculate conception is the dogma that from the moment of her conception the virgin mary was free from sin.
 


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