Evolution and Big Bang are lies from Hell

[beorhthelm]

No it doesn't, the many starving across the world show how badly humans have used free will in a way it shouldn't be.

ah free will, the defense of the religious faced with the prospect that their god neither knows or cares to intervene in the world. how is being born into a family with no food free will? how are failing rains in some forsaken corner of Africa free will? how is fleeing war and contracting typhiod in a fetid refugee camp free will?

 

[Nibble]

ah free will, the defense of the religious faced with the prospect that their god neither knows or cares to intervene in the world. how is being born into a family with no food free will? how are failing rains in some forsaken corner of Africa free will? how is fleeing war and contracting typhiod in a fetid refugee camp free will?

Quite. If it's good it seems to be God's wonderful work. If it's bad it's the result of free will, how wonderfuly blameless he is.

 

[brightonrock]

In the sense that a lot of scientists hold the view that actually it takes such a rarely found, delicate balance of elements to support life, possibly earth being the only place life exists that humans and other life on earth are actually vastly important and hugely significant.

Yes I agree that the conditions for life are considered as hugely important but I was meaning more on an individual level. In science/evolution, you or I are no more unique or special or important than any other person on this earth, and we exist to continue our species, as does any other single animal on the planet. With religion the individual is just one of a deity's creations, all as perfect and special and valued as the next, and if they live a good life they get to go to heaven. This was more my point - on an individual basis, religion is not as 'cold' as evolution, and says there IS meaning beyond just existing. Don't get me wrong, as I explained I'm more a champion of science and evolution - I like the idea of a deity but I'm just not sure I can believe it. But I understand why many people can and do, and I respect them for that.

 

[Nibble]

Yes I agree that the conditions for life are considered as hugely important but I was meaning more on an individual level. In science/evolution, you or I are no more unique or special or important than any other person on this earth, and we exist to continue our species, as does any other single animal on the planet. With religion the individual is just one of a deity's creations, all as perfect and special and valued as the next, and if they live a good life they get to go to heaven. This was more my point - on an individual basis, religion is not as 'cold' as evolution, and says there IS meaning beyond just existing. Don't get me wrong, as I explained I'm more a champion of science and evolution - I like the idea of a deity but I'm just not sure I can believe it. But I understand why many people can and do, and I respect them for that.

Well put

 

[Stewart]

Evolution is bunch of nonsense.

How did birds "evolve" their wings?

You all believe in a series of stupid coincidences, just like I apparently you do. The evolution theory is faulted in so many ways.

 

[Silk]

Evolution is bunch of nonsense.

How did birds "evolve" their wings?

You all believe in a series of stupid coincidences, just like I apparently you do. The evolution theory is faulted in so many ways.

Perhaps you should explain how, since you know so much about it?

 

[Stewart]

Perhaps you should explain how, since you know so much about it?

They didn't evolve their wings..

An evolutionist would say that over time the wings got bigger until they could fly, but at the start those wings would have been short and useless. Why would a bird need those short and useless wings? Surely they would just evolve some claws to climb trees or something?

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

 

[Silk]

They didn't evolve their wings..

An evolutionist would say that over time the wings got bigger until they could fly, but at the start those wings would have been sort and useless. Why would a bird need those short and useless wings? Surely they would just evolve some claws to climb trees or something?

ROFL. So you don't think wings evolved, but claws could have. You're funny.

 

[Nibble]

They didn't evolve their wings..

An evolutionist would say that over time the wings got bigger until they could fly, but at the start those wings would have been short and useless. Why would a bird need those short and useless wings? Surely they would just evolve some claws to climb trees or something?

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

Well you see, at some point a genetic mutation would have occurred, as they do today, where a lizards limb was a fraction closer to a wing, this would have given them some kind of advantage, a longer stride, or a a higher perspective maybe and they would have been more succesful in mating thus passing down the mutant gene that becomes the norm and becomes more pronounced over Billions of years. That, is a very, very simplified explanation. Up to you what horseshit you choose to believe though.

 

[beorhthelm]

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

we didnt. you dont understand evolution. if you dont like it, come up with a sensible alternative.

but before you do please go back and address the previous unanswered question about how your god allows suffering, disease, famine and all that bad shit. you really need to be dealing with that first, not trying to divert attention onto a seperate issue.

 

[brightonrock]

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

This sentence shows such a staggering lack of understanding of what evolution actually is I've concluded you can only be on a wind-up.

 

[Seagull27]

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

We didn't.

 

[ngood77]

Anybody got a barrel with fish in it that need shooting ?

 

[ngood77]

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

We did not evolve from them, we evolved from their ancestors, we are their cousins, even you.

 

[Stewart]

Well you see, at some point a genetic mutation would have occurred, as they do today, where a lizards limb was a fraction closer to a wing, this would have given them some kind of advantage, a longer stride, or a a higher perspective maybe and they would have been more succesful in mating thus passing down the mutant gene that becomes the norm and becomes more pronounced over Billions of years. That, is a very, very simplified explanation. Up to you what horseshit you choose to believe though.

Let's not get offensive... but as you started it, it's up to you what sort of horseshit you believe in to.

 

[Stewart]

We did not evolve from them, we evolved from their ancestors, we are their cousins, even you.

"Evolve." Evolution says that a strike of thunder caused the first cells to began life as we know it.

What a load of rubbish, but as my unintelligent friend Nibble said, It's up to you what kind of horseshit you believe.

 

[ngood77]

"Evolve." Evolution says that a strike of thunder caused the first cells to began life as we know it.

What a load of rubbish, but as my unintelligent friend Nibble said, It's up to you what kind of horseshit you believe.

Ok, so you've skipped on from the evolving-from-apes angle ?

And yes, the strike of thunder theory is horseshit. It was lightning.

 

[Seagull27]

"Evolve." Evolution says that a strike of thunder caused the first cells to began life as we know it.

What a load of rubbish, but as my unintelligent friend Nibble said, It's up to you what kind of horseshit you believe.

Firstly evolution doesn't say that, it merely suggests it as a possibility. And secondly, what makes you say it's a load of rubbish?

 

[pastafarian]

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

its very difficult not to be rude to you when you come out with horseshit(as nibble puts so well) like this,i suggest you actually read up on what evolution actually proposes for all species before you make yourself look even more spectacularly uneducated on the subject

im beginning to think you must be on some sort of demented wind up

 

[Silk]

And why do apes and gorillas still exist if we evolved from them?

Why are my parents still alive if I descended from them? Maybe all your relatives died the minute you were born, but that is a truly exceptional occurrence.