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[Football] Everton want answers about penalty decision



hart's shirt

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Going to be super tight. On the face of it people may look at Everton's fixtures and pick out 3 wins, but it's never that easy. If Burnley can find 2 wins from somewhere, fancy that will be enough for them. If Leeds lose tonight, could be squeeky bum time again for them too.

EVERTON
Chelsea H
Leicester A
Watford A
Brentford H
Palace H
Arsenal A

BURNLEY
Watford A
Villa H
Spurs A
Villa A
Newcastle H

I'm struggling to see Everton beating a Chelsea side with no European distractions, nor an in-form Burnley losing at Watford.

The 2 points (plus a better GD) margin would thus remain at least. And it could be 4 or 5.

Everton then play 2 away games. They've only won 1 away all season and that was against us in August. No form there.

Burnley's next game is at home against Villa. That's winnable.

The way the fixtures are stacked, Everton could be 6-8 points adrift before their 2 home games.

Speculation of course and things rarely work out as expected, but it's interesting to see how it might develop.
 








dsr-burnley

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Perhaps it is because Gordon is a cheat and a diver.

He's an immensely talented lad but has been taught by his coaches and team mates (i.e. Richarlison) to throw himself to the ground. If he has previous in trying to con the ref, then don't be surprised when the ref gives the defender the benefit of the doubt.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61213710
My answer would be that Gordon ran into the penalty area and then slowed down and moved to the right before putting his shoulder into the chest of the defender who was running in a straight line. The defender did nothing wrong.

But then, I wouldn't give about two-thirds of the penalties that we get nowadays. The modern idea of "2 players touch, the forward dived" is enough for a penalty is not one I support. If they're going to give penalties for slight contact, it must be for all slight contact, and not just the ones where the forward dives.
 


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Cowfold Seagull

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Perhaps it is because Gordon is a cheat and a diver.

He's an immensely talented lad but has been taught by his coaches and team mates (i.e. Richarlison) to throw himself to the ground. If he has previous in trying to con the ref, then don't be surprised when the ref gives the defender the benefit of the doubt.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61213710

Delete trhe name Richarlison, and replace it with Connolly. Spending half of the game on the ground complaining about alleged fouls seems to be his modus operandi .

Talking about Everton wanting answers about penalty decisions, maybe the Albion should demand answers about offside decisions. The Pascal Gross "winner" being ruled out on Sunday being especially baffling.
 


Jam The Man

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Good use of The Beatles ‘I Feel Fine’ in that video!
 


kevo

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One of the worst dives I've seen for a while. Everton are jokers.

Maybe we should demand 'answers' about the Gross offside.
 




Brok

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Maybe it's about time we did away with penalties altogether. Just had a free kick from where the offence in the area took place instead?
 












Weststander

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It's not about this at all.

Lampard thinks he's cute by creating a circle the wagons mentality at the club for these last games, particularly as they have the most bitter supporters (they really, really despise most players, most former managers, plus Kenwright and Moshiri).

Ensuring that he's not hated or blamed come what may. Unlike Rafa, Silva, Allardyce, Martinez and Koeman.

You can read Fat Frank like a book.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Would Kane have got the decision? Think we know the answer.

Either way they lost hahaha
 


Easy 10

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I can see and understand all the arguments as to why the referee didn’t give a penalty on the field.

What I don’t understand is why VAR didn’t/couldn’t/wouldn’t see what should have been a definite penalty

Because it wasn't a "definite" penalty. Yes there was contact, but largely created by the fop-haired little turf magnet. Contact and going to ground does NOT = penalty.

It was not a clear and obvious error for the referee not to award it, so the onfield decision stands. VAR quite right not to get involved. Thats exactly how VAR is supposed to work.
 


Giraffe

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Five years ago it's not a penalty. Now it is.

The concept of if there is contact it is a penalty is used to justify so many penalties now that I don't think should be that I really don't see this is any different. If that is Salah or Mane down the other end he is absolutely giving it.
 






brighton_tom

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Exactly. That one may or may not have been a pen, but so many times previously I’ve watched him play & he just can’t wait to throw himself to the floor. As soon as he’s in the penalty box you see his eyes light up at the thought of it. It’s Zaha levels.
 


Neville's Breakfast

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Five years ago it's not a penalty. Now it is.

The concept of if there is contact it is a penalty is used to justify so many penalties now that I don't think should be that I really don't see this is any different. If that is Salah or Mane down the other end he is absolutely giving it.

Only by pundits/commentators and they, by and large,have a shockingly poor knowledge of the game.
 


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