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dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,459
London
Not so sure after watching them against Spurs. It is only one game and it was Spurs, but Everton started very much on front foot and stayed there for first half. What was encouraging was that they conceded twice, which is unusual. We have good record against Moyes, and I don't think he will park bus, in which case could be entertaining.
Apart from maybe Liverpool,city and spurs NO team in this league will try and go on the front foot against us at the amex. Which is one of the reasons I've gone off going to home games recently!

Almost guaranteed they will sit back and try and hit us on the break.
 


Monsieur Le Plonk

Lethargy in motion
Apr 22, 2009
1,866
By a lake
I doubt there is any substance or history to back this up but I just feel that a Moyes Everton team will be less of a banana skin than any team managed by Dyche. His influencing of refs and his players blatant and relentless use of the dark arts contrasts to a slightly more honest Moyes approach that will allow the better team to emerge as victors.
 


Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,737
To welcome Pigford, may I suggest that those behind the goal pull their elbows into their outer layer leaving their hands out of the holes to wave to him? I think he'd like that.
 


Littlemo

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Aug 25, 2022
1,835
Is there a rational reason why they sacked Dyche for Moyes btw? Not followed it closely.

Its clearly not some sort of football visionary move towards a more progressive Everton so its a little difficult to understand why they changed.

Yeah, they were one point off the relegation places and Dyche consistently set up to try and draw, and not to attack. He’s a dreadful manager.

It’s pretty obvious if you watched the likes of West Ham under Moyes that he is a far better manager. He took them from fighting relegation to being much higher up, they mainly fell back a bit when they were in Europe, like many teams. Of course he won the Europa Conference league as well, you don’t manage that if you are shit.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,113
Surrey
Yeah, they were one point off the relegation places and Dyche consistently set up to try and draw, and not to attack. He’s a dreadful manager.

It’s pretty obvious if you watched the likes of West Ham under Moyes that he is a far better manager. He took them from fighting relegation to being much higher up, they mainly fell back a bit when they were in Europe, like many teams. Of course he won the Europa Conference league as well, you don’t manage that if you are shit.
The funny thing is, Moyes hardly ever beats us does he? Once for West Ham, and I think that's it. Dyche though has the upper hand over us, and it isn't close.

I'd be tempted to say the Conference League win flatters Moyes, but then you have to remember they qualified for it by finishing 7th or 8th or whatever, so you've got to be a fairly decent manager to get a club like West Ham that far up the table. (They're not the worst run club at board level, but they're not Benham/Bloom-esque geniuses or even Arsenal levels of competence either.)
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
3,611
Yeah, they were one point off the relegation places and Dyche consistently set up to try and draw, and not to attack. He’s a dreadful manager.

It’s pretty obvious if you watched the likes of West Ham under Moyes that he is a far better manager. He took them from fighting relegation to being much higher up, they mainly fell back a bit when they were in Europe, like many teams. Of course he won the Europa Conference league as well, you don’t manage that if you are shit.
Think they've both proved to be good managers. But yes, Moyes might be a level above. Achieved a lot in most of his jobs.
 


Littlemo

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Aug 25, 2022
1,835
The funny thing is, Moyes hardly ever beats us does he? Once for West Ham, and I think that's it. Dyche though has the upper hand over us, and it isn't close.

I'd be tempted to say the Conference League win flatters Moyes, but then you have to remember they qualified for it by finishing 7th or 8th or whatever, so you've got to be a fairly decent manager to get a club like West Ham that far up the table. (They're not the worst run club at board level, but they're not Benham/Bloom-esque geniuses or even Arsenal levels of competence either.)

I know what you mean about the cup and you can get spawny cup runs but they were also semi-finalists in the Europa League the season before that and QF in the Europa League last season which are all pretty respectable.

Hopefully we continue the Brighton curse for him though 🤣
 






Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
26,669
So it's a 1-0 lead at half time, or early in the second half, an equaliser after defensive madness in the 75th minute- then Everton miss a sitter in the last minute.

One point gained. Last on MOTD.

You don't need a crystal ball for this one
 


kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
9,971
Win that, and we ARE in the mix for Europe again, especially with Forest v Bournemouth and Man City v Chelsea being played same weekend...
Why on earth did you have to go and post that?!
 




Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,682
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Is there a rational reason why they sacked Dyche for Moyes btw? Not followed it closely.

Its clearly not some sort of football visionary move towards a more progressive Everton so its a little difficult to understand why they changed.

Moves is kind of a club legend though, 12 years as manager and the last time they were consistently good. Perfect guy to lead them into their new stadium
 




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