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[Football] Everton fc
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Bold Seagull
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Totally agree. But, I was responding to a statement that Everton going down would be the biggest relegation in the PL era - for my money, it wouldn't surpass Leeds.
Bold Seagull
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Really? Leeds was on the cards though with the financial meltdown, avoided the drop on the final day of the season the year before - wasn't really a surprise.
Everton finished last season 10th on 59 points. They've invested in the squad. They haven't scored below 47 pts for the last 10 years, other than 1 season in those 10, I think they've been 10th or above. They seem part of the PL furniture.
Stato
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Other than the Revie period and the over-spending under Reesdale, Leeds have generally been a Level 2 team. They have sent virtually half of the post war years outside of the top division. Everton were founding members of the league and have spent only 4 seasons of 128 out of the top division, the last in the early 1950's. They have three times as many Top Level league titles than Leeds and five times as many FA Cups. Their most recent League title was only 5 years before Leeds won the last title before the Premier League era. Everton are in the top 20 of Forbes list of Europe's most valuable football clubs.
I don't think that they'll go down, but if they did, you'd have to look back to the 1970's at Spurs or Man Utd's single season in Division 2 for something comparable.
banjo
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Sports question ,
Everton & Burnley have each only won one Premier League game away all season . Leeds have only kept one Premier League clean sheet away from home all season.
Name the opposition team .
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Sports question ,
Everton & Burnley have each only won one Premier League game away all season . Leeds have only kept one Premier League clean sheet away from home all season.
Name the opposition team .
A team managed by a social worker?
portlock seagull
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Bit odd to debate biggest relegation since 1993? Why not 2000? 2005? 2012? 1971? 1954? 1938? 1980? Why the fixation with 1993?
I don’t think it is that odd, at least not in this context, that it’s framed as a post-1993 question. As much as I don’t like the way Sky et al speak as if football only began when the Premier League started, it’s reasonable to acknowledge that the game changed drastically from that moment on.
We’ve had Manchester United go down in the 70s, and Liverpool before them in the 50s. But it wouldn’t happen today, at least not without some massive extraneous aggravating factor, e.g. what could happen to Chelsea in the not too distant future. But football before was played on much more of an even keel, that’s why you got the likes of Brian Clough’s Derby going from the second division to English champions in a couple of seasons, Forest winning the European Cup (also under Clough) and Ipswich winning the Uefa Cup.
Granted, we not so long ago had Leicester win the Premier League but that only serves to reiterate the point - that was a massive, massive shock as it went completely against what people thought was possible in the English football system.
Everton have resources far greater than the division’s smaller outfits. They have the sixth largest budget in the division, and between 6 and 3 x that of the three lowest budgets (belonging to Brentford, Leeds and Norwich). This wouldn’t have been the case prior to 1993. They shouldn’t be even dabbling with relegation, let alone seriously threatened by it.
Everton have been in the top flight since 1931. Ninety one years. Surpassed only by Arsenal.
If Everton go down it would be almost as astonishing as Palace winning something.
BN41Albion
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Sports question ,
Everton & Burnley have each only won one Premier League game away all season . Leeds have only kept one Premier League clean sheet away from home all season.
Name the opposition team .
You can only laugh
maresfield seagull
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Don’t you dare tempt fate and Murphy s Law HWT ?
That would be utterly unbearable
Palarse winning something I mean
You say that as if it was commonplace back in the day.
It really wasn't. Forest, in particular, is a staggering and unprecedented achievement.
By and large it was always the richest clubs that won things, though. Just, different clubs in a moveable feast.
I also note that Brighton, Hull, Swansea, Cardiff and others have all risen from the fourth tier to the top flight since the 'EPL' began.
Dare to dream....like Leicester did not so long ago.
And meanwhile, the biggest club in the world, ManUre haven't wone the 'EPL' since Fergie shuffled off, stage left.
Football definitely did not begin in 93. 'The EPL era' is just a marketting ploy. Like bottled water.
But that doesn't mean that times change, though. They do.
severnside gull
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I would so much rather see Leeds go down than Everton.
It would have a certain poetry.
It would have a certain poetry.
Don’t you dare tempt fate and Murphy s Law HWT ?
That would be utterly unbearable
Palarse winning something I mean
I wouldn't tolerate Palace winning something just for the amusement of seeing Everton relegated in exchange. It would be funny to see Everton go down, but that's all.
I think I would like to see several clubs stripped of their dirty money, though. That means Russians, Arabs and the like. Places where you get locked up (or worse) for being gay, and discriminated against for being a woman. They can all **** off as far as I'm concerned, and shouldn't be tolerated here.
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Weststander
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Sky marketing and loads of indoctrinated sheep think of 1992 has some of kind of reset in an age old sport.