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[Albion] Evan Ferguson



Han Solo

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As someone’s mentioned, statistically Rooney’s best seasons for United were 09/10 and 11/12 (34 goals in all comps), by which point he was in his mid-20s.
Yup. Carrying a rather weak United side on his shoulders.

Maybe he had more flair and higher status as a wonderboy back in 2004 but he was a much better player overall a few years later.
 




Gabbiano

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Dec 18, 2017
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We have another example of a player who peaked at age 19, got an injury and never reached the same heights again - Tariq Lamptey.

But having said that I don't believe it's the same case with Ferguson. Ferguson doesn't rely on pace in the same way that Lamptey or Owen did. His big problem seems to be that his confidence and enthusiasm has fallen through the floor, and he's not putting the same shift in as when he first broke through. His instinctive shooting isn't happening at the moment, and he's not using his body as cleverly. That can all come back with form.
 




Insel affe

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Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
There is fair amount of negativity on this thread at the moment, he will get game time over the next two games and I really hope he can deliver.
Then after Brentford I think we will be able to really tell if we will let him go out on loan, personally I believe the clubs take on this, in that he is going nowhere at the moment.
 


DJ NOBO

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Why are the people talking about Rooney and Owen peaking at 18 only talking about their England careers?

Owen's best period was 2001-2004 when he scored 100 goals over 4 seasons, won the FA Cup, two League Cups and a UEFA Cup and the Ballon d'Or and was nigh on unplayable.

Rooney's best years were at Manchester United, and he only signed for them at 18. His best years there were a lot later too, maybe 2004-2008?
In terms of Gazza-esque, single-minded footballing genius, Rooney never topped his teenage years.
That version of Rooney deserved to win the Euros, and Would have done if fate hadn’t intervened.
After the injury he couldn’t run through teams in the same way. Still a very good player though, but in a different way.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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The single most telling moment for me was that time recently (Fulham was it?) where instead of burying the ball in the net after his first touch he took a second touch to lay the ball off to Mitoma. That's not a striker's instinct. That the touch of a player who has lost all confidence. Desperately needs some loan time somewhere where he can bang in goals for fun. Said it before, say it again, a half-season loan to Celtic would be a perfick fit for all parties
 


pigmanovich

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Mar 16, 2024
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The single most telling moment for me was that time recently (Fulham was it?) where instead of burying the ball in the net after his first touch he took a second touch to lay the ball off to Mitoma. That's not a striker's instinct. That the touch of a player who has lost all confidence. Desperately needs some loan time somewhere where he can bang in goals for fun. Said it before, say it again, a half-season loan to Celtic would be a perfick fit for all parties
It was at Leicester - agree completely re the rest
 








GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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FFS I couldn't give a sh1t about Rooney and Owen! How Ferguson can be helped is a far more pressing matter. We all know what went wrong (or we think we do - and are probably right!) with our last goal-scoring boy wonder, now with Sunderland, but that doesn't appear to be the case with young Evan; head screwed on, good family support, etc.
A loan seems the obvious answer - dropping down a level to play every game and (hopefully) score a lot of goals seems to be the obvious answer, but the club seems pretty adamant that isn't on the cards. So what's the plan? Maybe using him as a sub - but bringing him on early - after 60 minutes maybe, not just for a 5 or 10 minute cameo - so he gets sufficient minutes to get into games and get up to speed?
 










Han Solo

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Make no mistake. We're not loaning Ferguson to Fulham and they'd have little interest in loaning him from us. They have better things to do than to develop players for us.

They might be interested in buying him though, but I don't think we're selling right now.
 




GT49er

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Make no mistake. We're not loaning Ferguson to Fulham and they'd have little interest in loaning him from us. They have better things to do than to develop players for us.

They might be interested in buying him though, but I don't think we're selling right now.
Not Fulham - but plenty of other interest. Just speculative journalism of course, but one thing I think (and hope) they're right about is no permanent sell options or obligations are even on the table.
 






dazzer6666

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Not Fulham - but plenty of other interest. Just speculative journalism of course, but one thing I think (and hope) they're right about is no permanent sell options or obligations are even on the table.
How can any club be ‘leading the race’ ? :shrug:
 








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