eurostar passengers moaning idiots

[Nibble]

Was reading on BBc about passnegers moaning they were stuck on chunnell due to an electrical failure caused by freezing weather. Complaining thet were not fed and were cooped up after having to make complicated journeys through icy road and rail conditions.

I have some thoughts on this;

It's not Eurostar's fault

What do the passengers want them to do about the weather?

The passengers risked their journey despite endless severe weather warnings
not to travel unless completely necessary.

Some people are not happy unless they have someone to blame.

They should have bought their own bloody food given that the entire country was aware of the conditions.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Is that the ones trapped with their kids in the Channel Tunnel for twelve hours with no heat / light / aircon / food / information and no-joined up onward travel arrangements laid on at the end of their unexpected sleepover in the Channel Tunnel?

Reckon they might have a bit of a point meself.

 

[Nibble]

The same ones that got given free taxis back to wherever they lived. The same ones that the Eurostar staff evacuated as many as they could. The same ones that were told not to make any non-essential journeys for the next 2-3 days.

 

[Cian]

Have you considered that many of the journeys *were* essential? Eurostar isn't the usual way of booze-cruising and its not really day trip season.

 

[Acker79]

Eurostar is a popular method of transportation to paris for people going to eurodisney, or for a romantic (christmas) weekend away.

I wouldn't say those trips were essential, but I can see why people who have spent that much money on a disney christmas would think it is, or those that have planned the romantic getaway and have left their christmas shopping late, etc. would see them as important.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Everybody always thinks their travel is essential. Else they wouldn't be doing it.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I do think sometimes people just have to accept that sometimes the weather wins.

We live in a temperate climate, weather like this occurs once a year maybe, and therefore it makes no economic sense whatsoever to invest in the sort of infrastructure that countries in Arctic regions have. Even simple sounding stuff like road gritting is a surprisingly scientific procedure- go out too early and it gets washed away by cars, go out a few minutes late and the weather foils it. We're not masters of nature, and sometimes people need to get over that and accept that things occasionally beat us.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I do think sometimes people just have to accept that sometimes the weather wins.

We live in a temperate climate, weather like this occurs once a year maybe, and therefore it makes no economic sense whatsoever to invest in the sort of infrastructure that countries in Arctic regions have. Even simple sounding stuff like road gritting is a surprisingly scientific procedure- go out too early and it gets washed away by cars, go out a few minutes late and the weather foils it. We're not masters of nature, and sometimes people need to get over that and accept that things occasionally beat us.

Even the lowliest village in the Highlands of Scotland is better prepared for a bit of snow than the South East of England. They'll be laughing in the streets of Kemnay tonight

 

[Lady Whistledown]

But that's the point, the Scottish Highlands get their share of snow, therefore have the infrastructure to deal with it.

The South of England doesn't get much worthy of note, therefore there's no point spending millions on snowploughs and whatever else is needed- people would be moaning about the expense if they did. And in any case, someone posted here from Norway this week saying exactly the same happens in Oslo when it freezes there (which I imagine is significantly more regular an occurrence than it is in London or Sussex).

All I'm saying is that there seems to be a culture in this country whereby absolutely everything bad could and should be prevented by someone, somewhere, which leads to a n expectation that there must be somebody to blame and/or sue when things don't go according to plan.

Shit happens. Sometimes we just have to man up and deal with it (on a similar subject, you would be amazed if you could see how many people have dialled 999 in Sussex this weekend because of such major "emergencies" as kids throwing snowballs). 999? In these conditions??

 

[essbee]

Nibble,

I think you're being a little cruel here....

My main point: why the f*** didn;t Eurostar realise when they built their
trains that a sudden change in temeperature from outside to tunnel - creating condensation and the problems that creates for the eurostar mechanics *would*
cause this problem. I mean it's basic physics.

 

[BLOCK F]

Was reading on BBc about passnegers moaning they were stuck on chunnell due to an electrical failure caused by freezing weather. Complaining thet were not fed and were cooped up after having to make complicated journeys through icy road and rail conditions.

I have some thoughts on this;

It's not Eurostar's fault

What do the passengers want them to do about the weather?

The passengers risked their journey despite endless severe weather warnings
not to travel unless completely necessary.

Some people are not happy unless they have someone to blam
They should have bought their own bloody food given that the entire country was aware of the conditions.

Complete drivel.the whole episode appeared to be an ill prepared shambles to me!

 

[BLOCK F]

Is that the ones trapped with their kids in the Channel Tunnel for twelve hours with no heat / light / aircon / food / information and no-joined up onward travel arrangements laid on at the end of their unexpected sleepover in the Channel Tunnel?

Reckon they might have a bit of a point meself.

Absolutely spot on!

 

[beorhthelm]

bit inappropriate sentiment. however you do have to wonder at the mentality of someone who complained that their journey had taken 10 hours, the same as to San Francisco. what on earth has that got to do with? has no aircraft ever been grounded due to weather on that route?

 

[Arthritic Toe]

I was on the Eurostar yesterday. Came through the tunnel around 7pm no problem.

 

[tedebear]

The whole thing is a shambles, Eurostar should hang their heads in shame. If anything had been set alight in there they would have been moving bodies out of the tunnel today not zapped trains. I'd say someone f***ed up to be honest, more trains than the tunnel could cope with? Failed train in tunnel means no others should enter?

They have a very precise evacuation plan for that tunnel, which was dictated well before drilling begain. I smell a rat.

Those poor people!

 

[beorhthelm]

they did have fire a while back and i dont recall much fuss, responce went ok (lessons leanrt etc). i wonder if its simply there wasnt a procedure to deal with a frozen train, and no one initiated a fire responce.

 

[BensGrandad]

Wouldnt it have made sense to have the trains bank up outside the tunnel and when one clears the other end send another through or is that not possible I dont know. At least 2 trains an hour full would have got through.

 

[Deano's Invisible Pants]

Was reading on BBc about passnegers moaning they were stuck on chunnell due to an electrical failure caused by freezing weather. Complaining thet were not fed and were cooped up after having to make complicated journeys through icy road and rail conditions.

I have some thoughts on this;

It's not Eurostar's fault

What do the passengers want them to do about the weather?

The passengers risked their journey despite endless severe weather warnings
not to travel unless completely necessary.

Some people are not happy unless they have someone to blame.

They should have bought their own bloody food given that the entire country was aware of the conditions.

Errrrr, how is it not Eurostar's fault? When it's blowing a force 8 gale, ferry companies wisely decide that they may not be able to get their customers safely across the channel and stay in dock. Eurostar should never have run the trains if there had been a significant risk of their trains failing. Their disaster / problem recovery procedures are also an utter shambles.

 

[DJ Leon]

Was reading on BBc about passnegers moaning they were stuck on chunnell due to an electrical failure caused by freezing weather. Complaining thet were not fed and were cooped up after having to make complicated journeys through icy road and rail conditions.

I have some thoughts on this;

It's not Eurostar's fault

What do the passengers want them to do about the weather?

The passengers risked their journey despite endless severe weather warnings
not to travel unless completely necessary.

Some people are not happy unless they have someone to blame.

They should have bought their own bloody food given that the entire country was aware of the conditions.

Oh I'm sure you'd never have mentioned it again if you'd been stuck on a train for 14 hours with very little air, food or drink etc. I doubt you'd even post about it on here.

 

[SurreySeagulls]

Surpised they didn't do a survey to see if they all go to Withdean