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[Football] Euros 2024 - Matchday 8



SeagullsoverLondon

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In fairness, the one person I don't think you can blame there is Anthony Taylor.

His assistant (not sure which one it was, but they're both English) made the on-field call and then Attwell made the call from the monitor.

I'm slightly suprised that, as a subjective offside, Taylor wasn't called to the screen to make a final decision.
This is what annoys about the whole VAR mess. Why can't a ref just say let me have a look at the screen to check my decision is right. That is effectively what happens in rugby, and by and large works much better.
 






JamesAndTheGiantHead

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Sorry, but that's always offside (except in our game at Villa last season naturally). He is very much interfering, I agree that the keeper wouldn't have got there but with the current interpretation I think they've got that right
Interfering only applies if the impeded player is restricted from taking their desired movement or their view was obstructed to the point it effects their movement, which it didn’t.

As you’ve said, keeper didn’t even go for it and wouldn’t have with our without the player that was (unarguably) offside.

Mental decision and if that was against the Albion you’d be going spare.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Interfering only applies if the impeded player is restricted from taking their desired movement or their view was obstructed to the point it effects their movement, which it didn’t.

As you’ve said, keeper didn’t even go for it and wouldn’t have with our without the player that was (unarguably) offside.

Mental decision and if that was against the Albion you’d be going spare.
Keeper goes for it and ploughs into the player they risk giving away a penalty.
 


US Seagull

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Interfering only applies if the impeded player is restricted from taking their desired movement or their view was obstructed to the point it effects their movement, which it didn’t.

As you’ve said, keeper didn’t even go for it and wouldn’t have with our without the player that was (unarguably) offside.

Mental decision and if that was against the Albion you’d be going spare.
But would you have "gone for it" considering that you know there's a giant Dutchman in your way?

I'm not necessarily arguing that the decision was ultimately right, but I think "the keeper didn't even go for it" isn't an entirely convincing argument.
 








JamesAndTheGiantHead

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Keeper goes for it and ploughs into the player they risk giving away a penalty.
Very true, but I’ve played in goal enough times to know when I’m beaten, at which point you’d don’t even bother. You know your corners.

Also, if he’d gone for the dive and hit the player then it would have made the offside call much easier to make, of course the keeper wouldn’t have known that.
 








BN41Albion

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Is it just me or have the French fans suddenly become a lot more ultra style this tournament? Normally the French are pretty bang average in terms of numbers and noise in tournament football (only ever used to hear sporadic 'Allez les Bleus') but they seem to have gone all ultra this time round
 








Shooting Star

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It's almost like Jermaine Jenas is annoyed at the Dutch for making life difficult for the French tonight. It's called a gameplan. It worked and they almost bloody won if not for a questionable decision! Pundits are so far up the French's arses it's embarrassing.
 




A1X

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Feels like you need to score 2 goals to score 1 with VAR these days. Absolutely fed up with it, sucks all the joy out of football.
Let’s be clear, VAR has once again proved to work perfectly well at this tournament, clear and accurate quickly

The first time it’s gone wrong since it began, literally the first, is at the hands of the English officials
 


AlexBH

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They should be working from the principal of: is there a clear and obvious reason to disallow the goal on first viewing? No- goal. The principal they seem to working on instead is: Is there any reason to disallow the goal? Not sure, let’s watch 10 replays and analyse in minute detail- 5 minutes later: not sure, goal disallowed.
 










Bozza

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Post-match replays and range of angles show what a poor decision that was.

The keeper's stance and bodyweight meant he couldn't have dived for it and, even if he could, he wasn't getting anywhere near it.
 


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