Yeah, we didn’t show up and that’s the regret the players that won’t reach another final will have to live with.
4/5 players needed in the summer
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Yeah, we didn’t show up and that’s the regret the players that won’t reach another final will have to live with.
4/5 players needed in the summer
Weststander
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West Ham congratulated Liverpool through twitter, which was a dig at Spuds, picked up on their forums.
Animosity between London clubs, not just their fans.
Animosity between London clubs, not just their fans.
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No people of colour on Merseyside then ?
Didn’t really watch much of the match.
I understand why the format is what it is but I don’t like it. Champions league winners not even being champions in their own league certainly takes the polish off winning the trophy.I also firmly believe that if Liverpool fans were honest they would say that winning the European cup as league champions meant more in the 70s and 80s than the most recent victories.
As a BHA fan it is unlikely to ever be an issue for us so I doubt we will ever know if this really matters. Most cup competitions don’t carry anywhere near the prestige that they have in times gone by.
I’m all for improving the game for us fans but this isn’t the way it should be done. Let’s go back to the league champions only being in the competition to really entitle the winners to be the best team in Europe. Then perhaps their fans can really be smug about it, and rightfully so.
Until then, the trophy may as well be made of plastic.
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I understand why the format is what it is but I don’t like it. Champions league winners not even being champions in their own league certainly takes the polish off winning the trophy.I also firmly believe that if Liverpool fans were honest they would say that winning the European cup as league champions meant more in the 70s and 80s than the most recent victories.
As a BHA fan it is unlikely to ever be an issue for us so I doubt we will ever know if this really matters. Most cup competitions don’t carry anywhere near the prestige that they have in times gone by.
I’m all for improving the game for us fans but this isn’t the way it should be done. Let’s go back to the league champions only being in the competition to really entitle the winners to be the best team in Europe. Then perhaps their fans can really be smug about it, and rightfully so.
Until then, the trophy may as well be made of plastic.
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Utter tosh.
It's considered the biggest football club trophy in the world. Watched by hundreds of millions around the world.
You'll see what it means to the people of Liverpool on the parade...
Just like the FA Cup is the biggest domestic cup trophy in the world?
History says the winners are the winners. Doesn’t mean anywhere near as much as it did 30 years ago does it?
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Weststander
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The money men at the major clubs and UEFA changed that forever. The CL was a concession to stop a breakaway in the 90’s.
No. That's clearly diminished in importance.
The top European cup competition has NEVER been bigger.
Fans are paying £25k for tickets! There's your clue.
Think you need to remove those rose-tinted glasses. Maybe it means less to you - it definitely doesn't mean less to the world of football.
I think I agree with Muzzy here. The European Cup did mean so much more when you actually had to win your own league title to be in it. Yes, I can understand what it means to Liverpool today, but I find it really odd that they have won two "Champions" Leagues and lost in the the final of the "Champions" League since they were last actually Champions.
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I’m with Muzzy here. It’s all about money and hype now. The European Cup meant so much more when it was a cup for the Champions of Europe.
The price of tickets and the coverage don’t make up for the fact that the Champions Of Europe aren’t and haven’t been Champions of England this century. Of course it devalues the competition.
So it gets more coverage and tickets can cost 20k and everybody and his brother is a Liverpool fan now, most of them have probably never even been to Liverpool.
Celtic and United winning the European Cup way back was a MUCH bigger deal imo
The price of tickets and the coverage don’t make up for the fact that the Champions Of Europe aren’t and haven’t been Champions of England this century. Of course it devalues the competition.
So it gets more coverage and tickets can cost 20k and everybody and his brother is a Liverpool fan now, most of them have probably never even been to Liverpool.
Celtic and United winning the European Cup way back was a MUCH bigger deal imo
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Icy Gull
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We all laugh about and have done for decades but they were 100% cheated by corruption
Weststander
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One of several football matches back in the day, where refs took a bung. Internazionale bribed the ref in the second leg of their European Cup semi in 65. Rife in parts of Europe back then.
Well, which is it?
Sorry, but I think you're romanticizing the past, when there wasn't much live football on TV and every foreign team seemed exotic and exciting... and a club could win the European Cup having faced just a couple of decent sides.
Sure the name is a misnomer, but the biggest and best teams in Europe - and the best players in the world - are in the Champions League each season, and the winner has to work bloody hard for it.
To say it's been devalued is ridiculous.
Ernest
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Derby got done one year too, it was rife even in the 80's when I think Anderlecht did Forest
Icy Gull
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Well, which is it?
Sorry, but I think you're romanticizing the past, when there wasn't much live football on TV and every foreign team seemed exotic and exciting... and a club could win the European Cup having faced just a couple of decent sides.
Sure the name is a misnomer, but the biggest and best teams in Europe - and the best players in the world - are in the Champions League each season, and the winner has to work bloody hard for it.
To say it's been devalued is ridiculous.
British teams made up of mostly British players meant something too, maybe you are too young to remember those days
Teams packed with foreigners and a cup for Champions won by a team who aren’t champions and you can say with a straight face that is hasn’t been devalued?
Yes it’s bigger, flasher and covered worldwide but even so.....
No, I'm not too young. But I'm not stuck there either.
Green Cross Code Man
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That's a poor response to a reasonable post. Just because someone thinks an old way is superior to the new, does not mean they are living in the past.