Do you use the bus at all?
Because if you do, you should get down on your knees and thank us OAPs. Without the money the bus companies get paid for conveying us for free, many of the bus services you might use just wouldn't exist.
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Do you use the bus at all?
Because if you do, you should get down on your knees and thank us OAPs. Without the money the bus companies get paid for conveying us for free, many of the bus services you might use just wouldn't exist.
Sadly I can't afford the prices the buses charge. I have to club together with my mates and get taxis.
Wouldn't happen in Germany.
Just an afterthought - are buses subsidised in any way in Germany?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It does. I eat very sensibly and can only manage to lose half a pound a week, sometimes not even that.
"The elderly will have been facing those issues" - Really? Most elderly would have been born post-war, when most things were state-owned. Home ownership for the masses has only been really around since the 1980s due to the Right to Buy. So, to make it easier, elderly will now be deemed 'baby boomer'.
"significant amounts into the system" - for their right to have access to state benefits, pension and healthcare. " while you have not.", can you figure out why I haven't been able to pay 'significant amounts'
"Assuming you are young I'm not sure why you would feel you have done enough to deserve anything." - I never said I was entitled to anything, I'm highlighting what my generation has to deal with as a result of the baby boomer's generation.
Generation before had done a good job getting the national debt down, it's now creeping back up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...9892984/How-prices-changed-over-30-years.html
I never made an claim for any entitlement. Instead, only emphasising what my generation has to deal with. Playing the whole "you've not contributed" card doesn't work. only until 16 years old could I contribute, but dependent on the choices I make i.e. education, means my contribution is delayed. But sir, if you want someone to be paying for your liabilities, I need an education to get a decent job to pay the higher taxes that contribute towards your entitlements.
Look at the national debt in 1950, and remember that us baby boomers were brought up on rationing up to 1954.
Before complaining about the bus pass, it only costs money when it is actually used. Well off pensioners don't use one.
How do you know that we don't? And you're forgetting that many of 'us' were those doctors and nurses that kept your relatives alive too? It just suits your agenda to guess at what other people think, and then try to present it as fact.
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Yes, you really do have a big chip. Have you never considered that many of the 'boomers' that you despise didn't vote for any of these things? Well no, rhetorical question really - of course you haven't!
Icy Gull
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Tricky Dicky
New member
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Neville's Breakfast
Well-known member
"The elderly will have been facing those issues" - Really? Most elderly would have been born post-war, when most things were state-owned. Home ownership for the masses has only been really around since the 1980s due to the Right to Buy. So, to make it easier, elderly will now be deemed 'baby boomer'.
"significant amounts into the system" - for their right to have access to state benefits, pension and healthcare. " while you have not.", can you figure out why I haven't been able to pay 'significant amounts'
"Assuming you are young I'm not sure why you would feel you have done enough to deserve anything." - I never said I was entitled to anything, I'm highlighting what my generation has to deal with as a result of the baby boomer's generation.
Generation before had done a good job getting the national debt down, it's now creeping back up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...9892984/How-prices-changed-over-30-years.html
I never made an claim for any entitlement. Instead, only emphasising what my generation has to deal with. Playing the whole "you've not contributed" card doesn't work. only until 16 years old could I contribute, but dependent on the choices I make i.e. education, means my contribution is delayed. But sir, if you want someone to be paying for your liabilities, I need an education to get a decent job to pay the higher taxes that contribute towards your entitlements.
You do have a rather skewed idea of life in late 20th century England. Home ownership was pretty common before the 1980s right to buy council housing and while there were nationalized service industry most things weren't state owned. The 'elderly' had to contend with extreme levels of taxation and much higher interest rates and inflation whilst bringing up families. They/we also footed the bill to bring up your generation. You would be best placed going out into the world and making your way, just as we did, rather than looking for excuses and blaming those who have already made many sacrifices both financial and otherwise.
why Barber out?
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- #91
No! I wasn't whinging at Brighton Council per se, indeed I never even mentioned 'Brighton Council' in my original post, just 'Brighton' the geographical entity. I made the, accurate, point that in Brighton you have to be 66 to get a bus pass, and this isn't the case in large parts of the rest of the UK. Ergo it is NOT a blanket national policy! Surely even you must accept that? It might indeed be the case that you also have to be 66 to get a bus pass in Bristol or Birmingham - but I don't live there, so I'm hardly likely to quote them in an example am I?
And whilst I accept you'll leap to the defence of the council in almost all circumstances and you will categorically reject this: they could do much more to promote bus use in Brighton. Indeed there's a story in the Argus today about a partnership between the bus company and a credit provider http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1538...s_travel_across_Sussex_cheaper/?ref=mrb&lp=10 I'm not sure where the idea for that scheme came from - but I bet it wasn't Brighton Council. And if it was it'll be the first!
el punal
Well-known member
In Southampton the bus pass qualification age is 60 and permits you free bus travel (after 9.00 a.m. weekdays, and all weekend) nationally, apart from London. Damn useful it is too, saves me nearly £4.00 in fares to the railway station every time I go to watch the Albion, when I use my Senior Railcard for the train from Southampton down to Brighton, that fare being £10.15 return.
With the money I save I can afford the cost of two blonde nurses to attend to my (ahem!) needs. Unfortunately there is no discount card for that privilege. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers!
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In Southampton? How come? Oi Alan @thelargeone, I've changed my view! I AM moaning at the council for not doing more to help old people! How come Southampton can do it?In Southampton the bus pass qualification age is 60 and permits you free bus travel (after 9.00 a.m. weekdays, and all weekend) nationally, apart from London. Damn useful it is too, saves me nearly £4.00 in fares to the railway station every time I go to watch the Albion, when I use my Senior Railcard for the train from Southampton down to Brighton, that fare being £10.15 return.
With the money I save I can afford the cost of two blonde nurses to attend to my (ahem!) needs. Unfortunately there is no discount card for that privilege. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers!
In Berlin certainly....over half a billion investment/subsidy per year for whole system which comprises of u and s-bahn, trams, buses and DB.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
[MENTION=177]Brovion[/MENTION] You are talking about being an OAP, but you aren't an OAP yet, as you're not old enough at 60.
el punal
Well-known member
In Southampton? How come? Oi Alan @thelargeone, I've changed my view! I AM moaning at the council for not doing more to help old people! How come Southampton can do it?
I've just been checking up on age eligibility for a bus pass and they may have moved the goal posts. I applied just before reaching 60 and was successful. It seems now the entitlement is at pension age (65), but there is so much gobbledygook that you can have senior bus pass but not be of pensionable age, depending on which authority/council you apply to.
I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours, make sure that you tell 'em that you've just received a telegram from the Queen to commemorate your 100th birthday - that should do the trick!
Dave the OAP
Well-known member
Just because....
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- #98
True, true. Still got that milestone to look forward to!
daveybgtt
New member
Work harder you lazy millennial's! *shakes fist*
luppers
New member
I must have been lucky I got mine at 60 in Eastbourne