seagulls4ever
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- Oct 2, 2003
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There are no English players starting tonight in the English Premier League match between Portsmouth and Arsenal, the first time this has happened. It's not right.
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lighthouse
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And I don't suppose that they ars TRIED and TESTED either.
fatbadger
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I fail to see what the difference is between "no English players in this English Premier League match" and "no players from Portsmouth in this Portsmouth side". If you don't have to be from Portsmouth to represent Portsmouth, why do you have to be from England?
BensGrandad
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Is neither O'Hara for Portsmouth or Walcott for Arsenal playing.
What about Hughes of Pompey is he English
What about Hughes of Pompey is he English
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No, no, and no. He's Scottish.
Spun Cuppa
Thanks Greens :(
Er, what about a League 1 club with a South American manager 
BensGrandad
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Just watching Pompey if they got wound up it wouldnt have much effect as they are really playing crap and are certain for relegation.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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im certain this is not the first time its happened.
Gully
Monkey in a seagull suit.
Didn't Liverpool have a team that had no Englishmen in it?
BensGrandad
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That was in a cup match, could have even been the final. Arsenal have played a few league games without any English players but not sure their opponents have. The most likely would be Chelsea with Frank Lampard and Ashley Cole and John Terry out as Joe Cole has been out for ages.
Gully
Monkey in a seagull suit.
I think you might be right, but the side still had plenty of Welsh, Scottish and Irish players in it...plus a Dane and an Aussie...rather than a team of players from outside the EU.
view
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Yeah it was a final, 1985 FA Cup final I think but I could be wrong. Out of the starting eleven none were Engish, however the substitute, only one in those days, was English (Paul Walsh). And whilst you're right, that the 'foreigners' in those days were mainly Scots, Welsh and Irish they still were denying places to Englishmen, and it's the lack of Englishmen in the Premier League which is what the thread starter was moaning about.
However I could argue that the current lack of Englishmen is actually a good thing. Firstly the foreigners have raised the standard and the although the number of English-qualified players in the top divison is probably the lowest it's ever been it does mean the survivors have to be GOOD. This means that England squads largely pick themselves as often there are no alternatives. In the old days although the choice was bigger apart from a few stand-out stars the rest were usually much of a muchness. Secondly because the foreigners have raised the standard it does mean that the Englishmen who are playing come up against world class opposition week after week.
There should be a third benefit inasmuch as because England fans see players like Fabregas and Torres week in week out they should realise that the chance of England winning the World Cup is only a possibility not a probability - but a lot don't.
Pompey are unwatchable on the telly - that loon in the wig and tats and his ragtag "band" drive me nuts
Hats off to the rest of their crowd though - the more the Gooners rattled their onion bag, the louder the home singing got. They should shut up and they might win a game.
Hats off to the rest of their crowd though - the more the Gooners rattled their onion bag, the louder the home singing got. They should shut up and they might win a game.
86 cup final Steve McMahon was an unused sub.
The 1985 cup final was Everton vs Man United
And a South African/Zimbabwean.
We saw Bruce Grobbelaar at Wakefield station on the way to Huddersfield last season.