[Football] England v USA

[Live by the sea]

Thought USA played as well as they could , England were however well below par .

 

[Zeberdi]

Oh yes and then our manager post match says "we played well but so did they "

… and that’s a £5m + salary right there!

 

[Swansman]

What a bloody weird way of thinking. I don't get some on this board. Why would anyone support another country over their own, just because some of our clubs players play for them.

As much as I love the Ecuador contingent, this whole anti-English nonsense on here is grating on me big time. I just don't get it.

Maybe some people are not particularly into national pride etc

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Maybe some people are not particularly into national pride etc

And maybe some of us are proud of our nation but are indifferent to the English football team? Particularly with that palace goon in charge. I am in the happy (and admittedly shallow) place that I will celebrate if we actually win something but not care a jot if we don't.

 

[1066familyman]

Teams that grind out results, knowing that a draw is enough, do so by staying in control and dictating the pace of the game. That is not what we did yesterday. We were not control and could have quite easily conceded more than one.
Southgate is of the same school as CH (CH is by far and away the better of the two) where it’s very much a risk averse approach. To Southgate it’s about not conceding rather than scoring, unfortunately yesterday we very nearly screwed it up.

IMHO, Iran had a bit of a mare against us and we got lucky. They got their shit together for Wales and it showed.

I doubt that any of the other managers are worried about playing England as they know exactly what Southgate will do. Have a go for the first 15 mins then regardless of whether we have scored, defend and hope for a goal.

The one thing that worries me is the early England goal, as it will then be a case of everyone behind the ball and quite frankly we aren’t that good at it.

'Iran had a bit of a mare against us and we got lucky'

And that statement is exactly the reason I avoided this thread and only just dipping into it now.

Pathetic comment.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

And maybe some of us are proud of our nation but are indifferent to the English football team? Particularly with that palace goon in charge. I am in the happy (and admittedly shallow) place that I will celebrate if we actually win something but not care a jot if we don't.

Southgate has made me fall out of love with the England team at the moment, which I find depressing. I’ve always enjoyed watching England in tournaments and always felt the pain of the inevitable failure. With the other exception of Hodgson I’ve always felt we had a chance.
Even after the early goal in the Euro final it was inevitable that we would lose because of his tactical ineptitude. I had a call shortly after the Euros, where the Italian attendee said they couldn’t believe how bad England were and that we played right into their hands. He also pointed out the we lost to one of the worse Italian teams in living memory.

we can win this but Southgate needs to get a new play book because this one’s shit.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

'Iran had a bit of a mare against us and we got lucky'

And that statement is exactly the reason I avoided this thread and only just dipping into it now.

Pathetic comment.

Really…. Iran where crap, surprisingly crap I may add. If they had played the way they did against Wales it may well have been a different story. if England were so good why were we so crap against the Colonials, who haven’t had a great run up to the tournamen?

Either we aren’t very good or we were tactically crap. I’m going for the latter. What do you think?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Really…. Iran where crap, surprisingly crap I may add. If they had played the way they did against Wales it may well have been a different story. if England were so good why were we so crap against the Colonials, who haven’t had a great run up to the tournamen?

Either we aren’t very good or we were tactically crap. I’m going for the latter. What do you think?

Haha personally I think we're somewhere in between. Iran were utterly awful though.

 

[Dancin Ninja BHA]

I'm not anti-English. I hope they win the World Cup. But my football passion is the Albion, not the England team. My interest is in Albion players not Tottenham, Liverpool, Everton players and others who I don't like week in and week out and don't even have to earn their place. I get that Southgate only wants to pick the players he trusts like any other manager. His job depends ultimately on results. I'll watch England and want them to win. But I'm more engaged with how Albion players do, hoping they don't get injured, wanting them to score goals or defend well or be creative, whatever their role. The two strands are that I hope the England team does well, but I don't really need to watch them. I hope the Albion players do well and I do want to watch them. Same as I used to watch Sully, Lawrenson, Grealish play for their country back in the day.

I agree with every damn word you've typed sir

Cannot be arsed watching England, but looking forward to watching later to see if Argie Mc comes on and ditto tomorrow at 10am for the Japan game and Mitoma

I was watching the game last night with my son and after 15 mins we just KNEW what sort of game it would be....boring, slow, predictable. We lasted until 30 mins, then sacked it off for the remainder

Would never do that with the Albion

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

France struggling to score or create as much as they would like, they switch it and bring on a different forward.

We bring on Henderson

 

[ManOfSussex]

How many managers have we had since Sir Alf though ? And even he missed out on a World Cup.

This team is not a strong comparatively than some folk think it is. The 2006 team was the best in my generation.

Southgate isn't the best tactically, but the team like him. And that's half the battle at this level.

He's not the best England Manager since Sir Alf Ramsay he's just the luckiest. (and just remember you support Whitehawk)

 

[Swansman]

Really…. Iran where crap, surprisingly crap I may add. If they had played the way they did against Wales it may well have been a different story. if England were so good why were we so crap against the Colonials, who haven’t had a great run up to the tournamen?

Either we aren’t very good or we were tactically crap. I’m going for the latter. What do you think?

Yeah a normal goal return for the game against Iran would be 2-3 goals from the chances England had. Which is good obviously, but getting 6 goals from 7 shots on goal isn't going to happen every day. 6-2 against Iran was a fantastic result but the performance was merely.. good. And if you get 7 shots on goal against a not-so-good Iran, then you might just get 3-4 shots on goal against a slightly better team like the US.

And then you have to think what that would look like when playing against teams like Spain or France...

 

[Stato]

I had to laugh at Southgate saying that he didn't bring Foden on to play in centre-midfield because he doesn't play there for City. He doesn't play in his preferred and best position for City because of Kevin De Bruyne and Bernado Silva, not because of Mason Mount. Guardiola has still played him everywhere in midfield and up front just to get him in the team. He actually did play a few games in centre-midfield last year. Meanwhile, Foden's team-mate, the right back Kyle Walker last played at centre-back for City on 17/10/2020. He has played a total of four games in that position during his years at City. He never played a game at centre-back for Tottenham. Guess where Southgate will be playing him as soon as he is fit enough.

 

[Swansman]

I had to laugh at Southgate saying that he didn't bring Foden on to play in centre-midfield because he doesn't play there for City. He doesn't play in his preferred and best position for City because of Kevin De Bruyne and Bernado Silva, not because of Mason Mount. Guardiola has still played him everywhere in midfield and up front just to get him in the team. He actually did play a few games in centre-midfield last year. Meanwhile, Foden's team-mate, the right back Kyle Walker last played at centre-back for City on 17/10/2020. He has played a total of four games in that position during his years at City. He never played a game at centre-back for Tottenham. Guess where Southgate will be playing him as soon as he is fit enough.

Indeed.

And someone like Harry Maguire plays nowhere for his club, yet he is perfectly fine to start as CB (he was Englands best player against the US tbf but still weird double standards).

 

[Dick Swiveller]

England are shit/Southgate is shit/I hope team with an Albion connection does better than England etc etc​

 

[Whitechapel]

England aren’t shit/Southgate isn’t shit/I don’t hope a team with an Albion connection does better than England​

 

[Dick Swiveller]

England aren’t shit/Southgate isn’t shit/I don’t hope a team with an Albion connection does better than England​

Think you might have missed the joke, blud.

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

Not everyone on this forum is English....

That's being very pedantic.

 

[Whitechapel]

Think you might have missed the joke, blud.

I think you’re a horrible rule breaker. You’re not allowed to say what you said. Disgusting.


(Also I rushed straight to this thread and copied the title. Obviously I should have checked the last page, my bad x)

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

I'm not anti-English. I hope they win the World Cup. But my football passion is the Albion, not the England team. My interest is in Albion players not Tottenham, Liverpool, Everton players and others who I don't like week in and week out and don't even have to earn their place. I get that Southgate only wants to pick the players he trusts like any other manager. His job depends ultimately on results. I'll watch England and want them to win. But I'm more engaged with how Albion players do, hoping they don't get injured, wanting them to score goals or defend well or be creative, whatever their role. The two strands are that I hope the England team does well, but I don't really need to watch them. I hope the Albion players do well and I do want to watch them. Same as I used to watch Sully, Lawrenson, Grealish play for their country back in the day.

I think we all do the same with regards to watching our players at the World Cup, but some have literally said 'oh, I don't care for England anymore, they play for so and so' - Apart from Maddison, I'd say it's a pretty likeable England team. Also, it really doesn't bother me where these players play. Our best player could come from the Croydon scum and I'd still put that aside for the love of watching my country play.