Not always. Sometimes it is to keep things tight whilst waiting for your top men to rest up and maybe wait for the new ball. Or of course you can go down the road of picking an all rounder, maybe someone who is at best ordinary in both departments as England were obsessed with for 15 years after Botham retired.
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England v South Africa - 1st Test - The Oval
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Not always. Sometimes it is to keep things tight whilst waiting for your top men to rest up and maybe wait for the new ball. Or of course you can go down the road of picking an all rounder, maybe someone who is at best ordinary in both departments as England were obsessed with for 15 years after Botham retired.
- Jul 7, 2003
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They picked plenty who were just ordinary in one department as well..
50 up for Trott... 135-1 (44.5 overs)
Cook 64* Trott 50*
Not forgetting Extras who is on 21*
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150 partnership... Cook 68* (167) Trott 63* (142)
Pretty steady effort from 51 overs... would like to see us pick the rate up a little between now and the new ball.
Pretty steady effort from 51 overs... would like to see us pick the rate up a little between now and the new ball.
Uncle Buck
Ghost Writer
- Jul 7, 2003
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The problem is we cannot find a decent number 6.
Morgan, Bopara and Bairstow's average is in fact worse than Bresnan (with the bat), so why bother picking them?
Morgan, Bopara and Bairstow's average is in fact worse than Bresnan (with the bat), so why bother picking them?
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Tea.
England 158-1 (53 overs)
Cook 69* Trott 68*
England 158-1 (53 overs)
Cook 69* Trott 68*
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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I agree with you a bit but I think Bopora's done ok at 6 as opposed to 3 and deserves a chance. I think Morgan survived for far too long
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
We should be ok until about 4.30pm. I listened this morning for ten minutes - the first thing I heard was Strauss get out. I then switched to the TdF. After the TdF I will listen to the test again. Expect a collapse after that.
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Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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There's too much talk on here and Cricinfo about the slow(ish) scoring rate, which is a tad under 3 an over. Firstly, the Boks will begin to tire shortly and the rate is bound to pick up. Secondly, I think people are beginning to take some of our batting for granted.
We're playing against an attack with the world's No. 1 ranked bowler but in spite of that this pair have put on the second best England 2nd wicket partnership EVER vs South Africa at The Oval. 18 more runs and it will be the best ever.
Enjoy this dominance whilst it lasts. These are the best times for English test cricket.
We're playing against an attack with the world's No. 1 ranked bowler but in spite of that this pair have put on the second best England 2nd wicket partnership EVER vs South Africa at The Oval. 18 more runs and it will be the best ever.
Enjoy this dominance whilst it lasts. These are the best times for English test cricket.
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7 minutes early!
Trott gone for 71.
England 170-2 (57.2 overs)
Perhaps now the rate will pick up a bit
Uncanny.
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
7 minutes early!
Trott gone for 71.
England 170-2 (57.2 overs)
Perhaps now the rate will pick up a bit
Switching over now.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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It's ironic that at a time when we've got arguably the best batting wicketkeeper ever to play for England that we opt to play 6 batsmen.
However, I think anywhere other than the sub-continent it engenders a feeling approaching invincibility as regards our batting, and has the equivalent demoralising effect on the opposition's bowlers.
However, I think anywhere other than the sub-continent it engenders a feeling approaching invincibility as regards our batting, and has the equivalent demoralising effect on the opposition's bowlers.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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That was England's 7th best ever 2nd wicket partnership vs South Africa. Good effort, that.
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KP might have had an early reprieve there...
that looked close.
that looked close.
MJNEastStand
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- Jul 17, 2012
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Spot on - and to be fair we have not struggled to take wickets recently. Steyne does not look fit but Should get interesting with KP out their, and does anyone else think Kallis might be wearing a wig? Looks a bit advanced hair studio....
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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I agree with this a lot though. Trott and Cook score runs, lots of them.
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England 200-2 (66 overs)
Cook 90* Pietersen 11*
Cook 90* Pietersen 11*