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[Cricket] *** England v India *** 2nd Spicy Test at Lords 17th -21st SS2 11am
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223 all out
Well played INDIA
Well played INDIA
El Sid
Well-known member
Prior - Gone
Stokes - Gone
Cook - Going
Stokes - Gone
Cook - Going
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Run out to finish it. Amazing. Why don't you push someone Jimmy, because they're all laughing at all of you. We had 2 full sessions to get 140 runs, and we try to hook every ball after lunch. A desperate throw of the dice by Dhoni to bowl short, and we fall for it, not once, not twice, not three times……doh doh doh.
Great test match, don't get me wrong, but it deserved a better end that that. Shameful that England haven't made it a nail biter.
Great test match, don't get me wrong, but it deserved a better end that that. Shameful that England haven't made it a nail biter.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
223 all out
Well played INDIA
Great test match, ebb and flow, but that should have gone to the wire. We've been robbed of a nail biting finish by woeful batting. India haven't had to play that well to win, lets be honest.
Calling him the next Botham. Beefy laughing his balls off and poor Chris Jordan wondering how he lost his place to this bloke.
JJ McClure
Go Jags
Never seem the BBC text commentary so scathing as when those three pull shots went for wickets.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Get rid of that CLOWN Cook now
crodonilson
He/Him
Reading from the text commentary his comments after the game he's going absolutely nowhere.
sten_super
Brain Surgeon
Disagree - we had by far the best of conditions, we were playing at home, we should have BATTERED them. They should have been all out for 150 in the first innings, we should have made more than 310, then the second innings would have been a cakewalk. Everyone is culpable, this really is plumbing the depths, and as someone said earlier, the frustrating thing is that you know that the senior players have it in them.
There need to be at least four changes for the next Test. I would drop Cook, Prior, Stokes and either Broad or Anderson (whoever is more desperate for a rest). Make Bell captain, tell him he's THE senior player and he better bloody well act like it, and then drop him at the end of the summer if he's not improved. Bring in Buttler (I know he can't keep well but neither can Prior at the moment), Jordan, an opener and another bowler (can be a quick if Bell is going to use Ali, otherwise a specialist spinner).
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
What kind of magic potion is Cook on!?
It's up to Prior if he wants a place or not? WTF is going on? This is half the problem, undroppable mentality. It's a two tier dressing room, one tier that can get dropped after a single performance like Chris Jordan, then a second tier where you can play poorly for 18 months and still keep your place. What message does this send to players like Compton that are dropped after a handful of chances, or Buttler waiting in the wings when the captain is effectively saying Prior is picked however badly he plays.
It's up to Prior if he wants a place or not? WTF is going on? This is half the problem, undroppable mentality. It's a two tier dressing room, one tier that can get dropped after a single performance like Chris Jordan, then a second tier where you can play poorly for 18 months and still keep your place. What message does this send to players like Compton that are dropped after a handful of chances, or Buttler waiting in the wings when the captain is effectively saying Prior is picked however badly he plays.
Listening to Cook now on TMS, he sounds like a broken man and struggling to hold emotion back when speaking about his future.
Just an utter utter mess since the 5th test against Oz at home last summer.
I can't believe the way we've collapsed there. Going out on a run out is totally unacceptable but then so is falling to a very obvious trap time and time again. Yes Ishant bowled well but it beggars belief that you can see the way Prior's got out and think 'you know what, the way to stop the short stuff is to hit it up in the air'.
Whatever you say about the attritional side of Strauss he won test matches. When that side won big I don't remember them being grinders either. We had a very good generation of cricketers similar to the Aussies pre 2005 with a fearsome swing bowler in Anderson, two other good seamers, Swann who could bowl attackingly to left handers and defensively to right handers, six batsman of who two would at least make a score and a wicket keeping batsman at 7 who could knock you out of the game in half an hour given the right circumstances. Most of all we had a reliable opening pair. In fact I don't think attrition when it comes to Strauss. I think 400 run plus almost every first innings, built on a solid opening stand.
With Swann gone, KP ousted, Anderson getting older, Broad looking like he wants to carry the team, no spinner and Prior found out that team has disintegrated exactly the way the Aussies did after 2005. The winter was actually our turning point and we have a couple of series at least of absolutely awful England cricket to look forward to. The answer doesn't lie in the current group but in the next players. We need a good attacking spinner, we need a new keeper, and most of all we need an opening pair. We also need not to have the worst England captain I can remember and his batting form suffering as a result. There is no easy answer. As with our footballers at the moment this group isn't good enough. I couldn';t begin to tell you who should open, captain, keep and spin because they don't exist.
Whatever you say about the attritional side of Strauss he won test matches. When that side won big I don't remember them being grinders either. We had a very good generation of cricketers similar to the Aussies pre 2005 with a fearsome swing bowler in Anderson, two other good seamers, Swann who could bowl attackingly to left handers and defensively to right handers, six batsman of who two would at least make a score and a wicket keeping batsman at 7 who could knock you out of the game in half an hour given the right circumstances. Most of all we had a reliable opening pair. In fact I don't think attrition when it comes to Strauss. I think 400 run plus almost every first innings, built on a solid opening stand.
With Swann gone, KP ousted, Anderson getting older, Broad looking like he wants to carry the team, no spinner and Prior found out that team has disintegrated exactly the way the Aussies did after 2005. The winter was actually our turning point and we have a couple of series at least of absolutely awful England cricket to look forward to. The answer doesn't lie in the current group but in the next players. We need a good attacking spinner, we need a new keeper, and most of all we need an opening pair. We also need not to have the worst England captain I can remember and his batting form suffering as a result. There is no easy answer. As with our footballers at the moment this group isn't good enough. I couldn';t begin to tell you who should open, captain, keep and spin because they don't exist.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Yes, I completely agree, but in the context of just today, or even where we were at the start of the innings yesterday, it should have gone to the wire (regardless of who played well or not). In terms of a test match, it's been enthralling, every session seemed to swing one way then the next. It was a great test match because of it being a contest up until lunch today, not because one side played badly or not. You can appreciate a good game even if your own team have cocked it up!
fat old seagull
New member
Stokes, whose idea was that, is his Mum one of the selectors?Stokes bags a pair
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fat old seagull
New member
Been out (fortunately) and missed our passing. But Sims, not to put too fine a point on it I have deduced from that post, you're less than happy.
The worst season for sometime for Sussex Anglophiles.
Not much left to do now than keep popping back in here to see if we have some joyous signing to celebrate.... I'll not hold my breath.
spring hall convert
Well-known member
Stokes will come good - he's a fine player. He scored 100 against an outstanding Australian bowling attack in the winter and his perceived batting strength got him the nod ahead of Jordan. I can see the sense in the decision, it's just that Stokes is horribly out of form with the bat at the moment.
What's happened to Bresnan? Msassively relaible performer at this level.
The captaincy didn't affect Pietersen's form......
What's happened to Bresnan? Msassively relaible performer at this level.
The captaincy didn't affect Pietersen's form......
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Worryingly, we don't seem to have got much of a bounce from the appointment of Peter Moores.
That second Ashes series has wreaked absolute havoc with English cricket, I've never known things to look so bleak as when we were routinely getting pasted by the Aussies and the Windies in the early 90s.
We've lost our coach (Flower), our most talented batsman (Pietersen), our talisman (Swann), our most dependable batsman (Trott). It now appears the hangover will do for our captain (Cook) and our wicketkeeper (Prior).
That second Ashes series has wreaked absolute havoc with English cricket, I've never known things to look so bleak as when we were routinely getting pasted by the Aussies and the Windies in the early 90s.
We've lost our coach (Flower), our most talented batsman (Pietersen), our talisman (Swann), our most dependable batsman (Trott). It now appears the hangover will do for our captain (Cook) and our wicketkeeper (Prior).