England v Australia

[ExmouthExile]

In the same tradition as our friendly neighbours, i'll be supporting every team that plays wales, scotland and ireland for the rest of the tournament!

 

[atfc village]

Shameful embarrasing on home soil hang your heads in shame ,oh for amateur Rugger again .To many over paid losers playing for England.

 

[atfc village]

It's pretty difficult to get wound up about it isn't it?

Ranks just above cricket

And below Cleudo.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Sponsors will be going nuts, the tournament is commercially dead

Going to be a few people in the O2 marketing department putting in a bit of overtime today...

 

[Icy Gull]

This World Cup tournament was probably more embarrassing for England than South Africa was for the football team in 2010. Never thought I'd see a nadir worse than that at the time. Being totally outclassed by one of your biggest rivals in the the final group game of both tournaments just rubbed salt into the wound.

 

[gregbrighton]

From BBC Sports website:

After all the hype and the hope, it wasn't even close.

World Cup humiliations are nothing new for English sporting teams. The men's football, cricket and rugby sides have now gone out of the group stages at three different World Cups in three different continents in 17 months.

That really sums it up. English men's national team sports really isn't cutting the mustard at the moment despite all the cash and resources that are being poured into it...

 

[Mackenzie]

Come on Japan.

 

[1234andcounting]

From BBC Sports website:



That really sums it up. English men's national team sports really isn't cutting the mustard at the moment despite all the cash and resources that are being poured into it...

I think the common theme is the lack of quality in the administrative bodies, which have barely dragged themselves from their 19th century origins into the 20th century, let alone the 21st. Rather than being meritocratic bodies at all levels there is surely too much complacency and free-riding and not enough being hard nosed. It is the only reason that I can see for serial under-achievement in our three main national team sports, as the teams under-perform regardless of the quality of player at their disposal. Look at how cycling has been transformed and see if the respective bodies for rugby, football and cricket can learn from that.

 

[neilbard]

Poor!

 

[mikeyjh]

No comfort at all but Wilkinson is a great pundit. I can't quote him exactly but he said no disrespect but we're not good enough....not my opinion, that's what the results tell us. Need to look again at how hard we work, how much we want to succeed.

I like him as a pundit, but I do get a bit irritated with this idea that we don't have the passion or don't work hard enough, it's a bit more complicated than that. I really like Burt as a person, he has all the right modern approaches to coaching, education etc etc but tactically he's not at the races. Who can honestly tell you how England play, what their game plan is etc? Messing around with the half backs, centres etc and a lack of a clear approach will, sadly, be his legacy. I do Agee with Eddie Butler in the guardian in that we don't have many world class players, but a good coach gets more than the sum of the parts, Lancaster doesn't.

 

[nicko31]

Can't believe the tournament still has 4 weeks to run. Like the cricket world cup it lasts way too long, just play Aust v NZ at Twickers next Sat and get it over with.

On England not great but at least our team are 80% English born and bred, this International Rugby not the Premier League. Is this the only way the game can be made half competitive, its a bit of joke really...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/fascinating-rugby-world-cup-stats-10052033

 

[Guinness Boy]

I was quite annoyed last night. Today I'm not. If we'd have lost to Cardiff though I'd still be furious. This is why I'll always be a football fan who likes a little bit of rugby.

 

[Steve in Japan]

Can't argue with that. Maybe time to look overseas for a new coach, not much national pride to be swallowed at the moment.

 

[Steve in Japan]

I like him as a pundit, but I do get a bit irritated with this idea that we don't have the passion or don't work hard enough, it's a bit more complicated than that. I really like Burt as a person, he has all the right modern approaches to coaching, education etc etc but tactically he's not at the races. Who can honestly tell you how England play, what their game plan is etc? Messing around with the half backs, centres etc and a lack of a clear approach will, sadly, be his legacy. I do Agee with Eddie Butler in the guardian in that we don't have many world class players, but a good coach gets more than the sum of the parts, Lancaster doesn't.

Can't argue with that. Maybe time to look overseas for a new coach, not much national pride to be swallowed at the moment.

 

[tigertim68]

Until the England football , cricket and rugby teams stop employing Yes men and Managers with little charisma , or personality , or not having the ability to inspire people ,and not having a winning mentality , we will win nothing !

 

[Ernest]

Until the England football , cricket and rugby teams stop employing Yes men and Managers with little charisma , or personality , or not having the ability to inspire people ,and not having a winning mentality , we will win nothing !

Exactly , get RID of the CLIPBOARD mentality

 

[dangull]

How about giving the job back to the guy who won the world cup for England. He still talks some sense as a pundit on ITV

 

[LamieRobertson]

Can't believe the tournament still has 4 weeks to run. Like the cricket world cup it lasts way too long, just play Aust v NZ at Twickers next Sat and get it over with.

On England not great but at least our team are 80% English born and bred, this International Rugby not the Premier League. Is this the only way the game can be made half competitive, its a bit of joke really...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/fascinating-rugby-world-cup-stats-10052033

Given the hits that go in when playing International rugby its not surprising that the games are spaced out for recovery time....making the groups smaller would possibly deprive the 'smaller' teams playing ..say Japan

 

[Hampster Gull]

Exactly , get RID of the CLIPBOARD mentality

We need Kevin Keegan back NOW

 

[Bry Nylon]

Who gives a fvck?

Its only wugger