ENGLAND playing the latin way?

[Return of the Rev]

Three touches and lump it forward to the big man What chance have we got? Youngsters need to be playing brazilian style futebol de salao Not even a franchise up and running in brighton at the moment,every youth side from under sevens should incorporate this in the training,proper sports coaches at schoolS would help.

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Revolutionize kids football Rev? I think you'll find that the FA & the EPL are quite happy to maintain the status quo. Who needs quality when that filthy lucre still smells soooooo good??

 

[jimhigham]

Gus for England (eventually). We'd be so FLAIR.

 

[Return of the Rev]

Gus for England (eventually). We'd be so FLAIR.

I think its a little more long term than that england are not as bad as the papers would have you think this morning,remember this time last year we were world beaters according to the same papers It was a game not worth playing,less friendlies and more worth in the england cap would help.

 

[Brovion]

My biggest criticism of Capello is that, like Sven before him, he appears to have 'gone native'. I had high hopes that we'd play the continental 'tippy tappy' way but instead we still use far too many long passes.

The best I can say for us is that we've gone from hoof, hoof, hoof, to tippy-tap hoof, tippy-tap hoof, tippy-tap hoof. If Poyet can improve a load of third-division players why can't England internationals improve? Is it because key players like Calderon and lua-lua aren't English and thus they encourage the others?

 

[Return of the Rev]

My biggest criticism of Capello is that, like Sven before him, he appears to have 'gone native'. I had high hopes that we'd play the continental 'tippy tappy' way but instead we still use far too many long passes.

The best I can say for us is that we've gone from hoof, hoof, hoof, to tippy-tap hoof, tippy-tap hoof, tippy-tap hoof. If Poyet can improve a load of third-division players why can't England internationals improve? Is it because key players like Calderon and lua-lua aren't English and thus they encourage the others?

cracked it the england players need more foriegn players around them to learn their tricksy ways

 

[Icy Gull]

If Poyet can improve a load of third-division players why can't England internationals improve? Is it because key players like Calderon and lua-lua aren't English and thus they encourage the others?

How many of our team are English and how many of them are the playmakers?

 

[Uter]

Three touches and lump it forward to the big man What chance have we got? Youngsters need to be playing brazilian style futebol de salao Not even a franchise up and running in brighton at the moment,every youth side from under sevens should incorporate this in the training,proper sports coaches at schoolS would help.

Couldn't agree more. What drives me mad is everyone seems to enjoy watching teams like Brazil and appreciate their skills lead them to success and yet there seems to be no will to try and change things here. It's as if everyone just accepts that Brazilians are somehow inately better at football and they are just plucked off the Copa Cobana beach and we couldn't possibly emulate them.

They are better through hard work and better training methods with a greater emphasis on skills and close control using smaller heavier balls. They are not born better and there is no reason these abilities could not taught to our youngsters.

 

[Brovion]

How many of our team are English and how many of them are the playmakers?

Well most of them obviously. But I'm guessing someone like Calderon bought into Gus's philosophy a bit quicker than the English players as it mirrored the way he'd been brought up. Consequently he could 'lead by example' in a way that perhaps Andrew Whing couldn't.

You may think I'm over-emphasising the influence of Calderon's 'flair' approach and maybe I am - in which case we still need to know why a group of third division players can play 'modern' football and a group of Premiership ones can't.

 

[Da Man Clay]

If Poyet can improve a load of third-division players why can't England internationals improve? Is it because key players like Calderon and lua-lua aren't English and thus they encourage the others?

I would imagine that it's due to the amount of time you have with the players. It's "easy" (very much the wrong term I know!) to constantly drum into a squad a way to play football over 2 months of Pre-season ect. It's not so straight-forward when the longest you have is about 3 weeks and all of the players are used to a very different system day in and day out at their clubs.

 

[bathseagull]

proper sports coaches at schoolS would help.[/QUOTE]


If you voted Tory or Lib Dem this year you can thank yourself for not having them after this academic year...

 

[alan partridge]

Couldn't agree more. What drives me mad is everyone seems to enjoy watching teams like Brazil and appreciate their skills lead them to success and yet there seems to be no will to try and change things here. It's as if everyone just accepts that Brazilians are somehow inately better at football and they are just plucked off the Copa Cobana beach and we couldn't possibly emulate them.

They are better through hard work and better training methods with a greater emphasis on skills and close control using smaller heavier balls. They are not born better and there is no reason these abilities could not taught to our youngsters.

all of this

 

[bellsize seagull]

futsal is the key...best game for all things technical !

 

[Return of the Rev]

proper sports coaches at schoolS would help.

If you voted Tory or Lib Dem this year you can thank yourself for not having them after this academic year...[/QUOTE]

i knew the england wilderness years would all be my fault

 

[murraymints4brighton]

I thought England where absolutely awful yesterday, but again, bear in mind the starting 11 and that, Foster, Jagielka, Lescott, Gibbs, Henderson, Carroll would be 2nd, 3rd and 4th choice in some areas.

That is the first live game I have watched this season that hasn't been the Albion and, with one hundered percent honesty, the Albion play better football and anyone from another club reading this thinking "wanker", they genuinley do. We could quite comfortably play the "Latin" way, the possesion game that works so well at international level, but having players like Lescott in the team, who are so hell bent on lumping it when quite clearly countless times last night he could have knocked it square or back, is going to get us no where.

What I want to know is when did Capello turn into a long ball Italian Micky Adams merchant? The bloke looked doomed from the start when he trudged onto the pitch and placed the England hat on his head, further more making him look like postman pat. At International level we should play the International way, the latin way, the idea that if you have possesion, the oppoent can't score, the idea that has got a "decent" squad, to the top of League One.

 

[Return of the Rev]

I thought England where absolutely awful yesterday, but again, bear in mind the starting 11 and that, Foster, Jagielka, Lescott, Gibbs, Henderson, Carroll would be 2nd, 3rd and 4th choice in some areas.

That is the first live game I have watched this season that hasn't been the Albion and, with one hundered percent honesty, the Albion play better football and anyone from another club reading this thinking "wanker", they genuinley do. We could quite comfortably play the "Latin" way, the possesion game that works so well at international level, but having players like Lescott in the team, who are so hell bent on lumping it when quite clearly countless times last night he could have knocked it square or back, is going to get us no where.

What I want to know is when did Capello turn into a long ball Italian Micky Adams merchant? The bloke looked doomed from the start when he trudged onto the pitch and placed the England hat on his head, further more making him look like postman pat. At International level we should play the International way, the latin way, the idea that if you have possesion, the oppoent can't score, the idea that has got a "decent" squad, to the top of League One.

Although we are playing good football it still looks unatural to certain players and would be harder to mantain in a higher division,there is alot wrong with youth football in this country and thats the real problem to be honest,when england did knock it about at the back did i hear booing? having done youth coaching i realise a level one does not count for much and dads coaching by the time they get to a reasonable level their kid has packed up footie and the u7's are getting coach by helpful but clueless and so the cycle continues.

 

[Brovion]

I would imagine that it's due to the amount of time you have with the players. It's "easy" (very much the wrong term I know!) to constantly drum into a squad a way to play football over 2 months of Pre-season ect. It's not so straight-forward when the longest you have is about 3 weeks and all of the players are used to a very different system day in and day out at their clubs.

Yeah, the length of time is obviously a factor. But most of those players play for clubs where they do, more or less, play a 'tippy tap' type of football, certainly FAR more tippy-tap then England ever do. So why do they become all 'old-fashioned English' when they gather for the national squad. It can't all be Stewart Pearce's fault ...... can it?

Not since Alf Ramsey have I been a supporter of the "let's sack the manager and then we'll get better" school of thought but the only reason for having a foreign coach is so that we can learn their methods. If we're going to play old-fashioned English football we may as well have an old-fashioned English manager.

You don't think Cappello is an agent of the Italian FA do you? Deliberately keeping us crap?