England footballer arrested on suspicion of having sex with a 14yo girl

[Munkfish]

I expect that's one of the possibilities that will be checked out.

Seriously though, perhaps people raising this point might also reflect on the recent discovery of all of the under-aged children in recent decades who have been abused and exploited (often by rich celebrities...as in this alleged case), and who at the time were scared to report it because they thought they wouldn't be believed, or because they'd be accused of making it up (and indeed some of them who did report it weren't believed, or were told to keep quiet). Given all that, the police and prosecuting authorities are now it seems (rightly in my view), when faced with a report like this, taking it seriously and not starting from the presumption that the child is making it up. A good thing too.

Which is fine, but it shouldnt get into the media, if he is innocent and done nothing he has nothing to hide, but its not a nice situation for someone to be in.

 

[pornomagboy]

He has just come on against Westham

 

[clippedgull]

Charges have been confirmed against Adam Johnson. Bailed to appear next month.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Charges have been confirmed against Adam Johnson. Bailed to appear next month.

Has he been diagnosed with Alzheimers yet

 

[jimbob5]

Footballers like to have some sexy fun. I don't see the problem in that but it's best to be sure she is 18.

 

[AlbionPics&SouthCoastTwit]

Can he score goals in the championship?

 

[jimbob5]

Can he score goals in the championship?

I should think he might be able to. Not many.

 

[jcdenton08]

Adam Nonceson

 

[knocky1]

An important consideration is that he is being charged with grooming.

 

[crookie]

An important consideration is that he is being charged with grooming.

Yep, makes it a lot worse in my book, and I presume in the eyes of the law

 

[Triggaaar]

Yep, makes it a lot worse in my book, and I presume in the eyes of the law

Worse than what?

 

[jcdenton08]

Right, just to explain something, "grooming" is a generic term used by the police and prosecution due to its strong negative reaction. It's like "creating" indecent images doesn't mean what many think it does. If you view a file, you "download" it, if you "download" it, you've "created a file". If that file is an image you've "created an indecent image".

Grooming MIGHT be a prolonged campaign to sexualise a minor and intentionally coerce him or her into sexual activity contrary to the law. It might also be arranging to meet the night before they actually meet and have sex, if the right set of parameters are met.

That said, the police wouldn't charge a high profile person publically for such a serious offence as "grooming" unless than intended to fully prosecute (albeit probably not for that charge, which will be inevitably dropped or lessened)

 

[crookie]

Worse than what?

Worse than being approached in a nightclub by a girl who he may have not been able to tell she was underage, and who lied about her age when asked. Plenty of girls can make themselves look older than they are. If he has been actively pursuing and grooming a girl he knew to be 14, that is much worse in my eyes.

 

[Triggaaar]

Worse than being approached in a nightclub by a girl who he may have not been able to tell she was underage, and who lied about her age when asked.

Yes, a lot worse than that.

 

[Sheebo]

Worse than what?

I think he meant had the fella not known the girls age at the time or had he been told she was older by her etc... I get his point but won't pass judgement until all the facts are clear...

 

[knocky1]

The thread title should be changed to 15 years old not 14. The grooming charge is Important as, contrary to many views on this thread, it means it was not a single drunken night out with the girl saying she is older.

 

[rouseytastic]

Apple wood chips are the way forward by all accounts. Something to do with flavour and smoking. And I also understand that the lid is an integral part. Needs to be domed.
My guv'nor is a bit of bbq chef kinda guy and is advising on me brick thingy in the garden.

Or.


Weber

 

[Prince Monolulu]

Apple wood chips are the way forward by all accounts. Something to do with flavour and smoking. And I also understand that the lid is an integral part. Needs to be domed.
My guv'nor is a bit of bbq chef kinda guy and is advising on me brick thingy in the garden.

Or.


Weber

 

[rouseytastic]

Oops. Meant to be on the bbq thread!!

 

[Acker79]

Right, just to explain something, "grooming" is a generic term used by the police and prosecution due to its strong negative reaction. It's like "creating" indecent images doesn't mean what many think it does. If you view a file, you "download" it, if you "download" it, you've "created a file". If that file is an image you've "created an indecent image".

Grooming MIGHT be a prolonged campaign to sexualise a minor and intentionally coerce him or her into sexual activity contrary to the law. It might also be arranging to meet the night before they actually meet and have sex, if the right set of parameters are met.

That said, the police wouldn't charge a high profile person publically for such a serious offence as "grooming" unless than intended to fully prosecute (albeit probably not for that charge, which will be inevitably dropped or lessened)

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/15

Meeting a child following sexual grooming etc.

(1)A person aged 18 or over (A) commits an offence if—

(a)A has met or communicated with another person (B) on at least two occasions and subsequently—

(i)A intentionally meets B,

(ii)A travels with the intention of meeting B in any part of the world or arranges to meet B in any part of the world, or

(iii)B travels with the intention of meeting A in any part of the world,​

(b)A intends to do anything to or in respect of B, during or after the meeting mentioned in paragraph (a)(i) to (iii) and in any part of the world, which if done will involve the commission by A of a relevant offence,

(c)B is under 16, and

(d)A does not reasonably believe that B is 16 or over.​

(2)In subsection (1)—

(a)the reference to A having met or communicated with B is a reference to A having met B in any part of the world or having communicated with B by any means from, to or in any part of the world;

(b)“relevant offence” means—

(i)an offence under this Part,

(ii)F3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(iii)anything done outside England and Wales F4. . . which is not an offence within sub-paragraph (i) . . . but would be an offence within sub-paragraph (i) if done in England and Wales.
​

(3)F5. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(4)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—

(a)on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or both;

(b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years.​