For Bayliss and Strauss, absolutely. After which the former waltzes off into the sunset and Strauss gets to claim he's achieved his ambition.
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[Cricket] England Cricket - Can we play the Aussies again please (as they’re easier)....
- Thread starter larus
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- Apr 5, 2014
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Shades of Christchurch 1984 (when England were bowled out for under 100 in both innings)
It isn't bothering me. Every Test side has a day like this and nothing should be taken away from what was simply an outstanding bowling performance.
How England recover is more important.
It isn't bothering me. Every Test side has a day like this and nothing should be taken away from what was simply an outstanding bowling performance.
How England recover is more important.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
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'Today was all about Broad getting his 400th test wicket. A milestone and historic day for English cricket. Well done to the batsmen for getting the ball in his hands so quickly so that he could wrap up this magnificent achievement' .... probable draft of ECB press release.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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But this is on the back on a 4-0 drubbing against the Aussies, and at a time when there is genuine concern for the future of international test cricket.
Going on tour for months on end is a huge commitment, while the financial rewards for one day cricket globally are huge. There is a concern that leading players could retire from the test arena simply to focus on one day cricket. You don't make your fortune or wow the crowds these days by playing in test matches.
These are dark days and worrying times for lovers of test cricket.
- Apr 5, 2014
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It's the way it is with international cricket these days. Teams just don't seem to travel well.
I took a look at some CricInfo stats earlier.
England have only lost four home series since the drubbing by the Aussies as far back as 2001. Two of those were single stand alone Tests. Only South Africa have beaten them over more than a single Test and I'm pretty sure one of those was the Pieterson series (2008).
Not only has it lost its appeal, it's now too predictable. Horses on their favourite courses. That's not helping. A five wicket haul for Anderson at Trent Bridge means nothing against any opposition.
I love Test cricket. But I think it's moving to intensive care.
It's because there are scarcely any warm-up matches these days. Sides coming over here get a couple of one-dayers and two thrash against Odds and Sods XI and then it's into a test arena.
I remember when the tourist games were big events. Remember Sussex beating the West indies?
- Apr 5, 2014
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I remember Sussex beating the all conquering ('Worst Australian side ever') in 1989..
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...ngland-scotland-netherlands-and-denmark-1989/
OzMike
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I'm going to kop stink over this in the club at the weekend, just as well the Kiwis also bowled the Aussies out for about 60 runs last year, that will be my come back.
Though it it still 2 runs more than we could manage.
Though it it still 2 runs more than we could manage.
studio150
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197/3 rain
Garry Nelson's teacher
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Heard an interview during the many rain delays with Andrew Strauss: apparently the whole selection process and infrastructure is going to be remodelled. (No truth in the rumour that a monkey with a pin is awaiting confirmation of the post!)
But the infrstructure is already being remodelled, that's the problem. We've lost more first class cricket in favour of more bish-bash-bosh and then wonder why we can't build an innings.
And as Matt Prior said yesterday, the whole point of central contracts was to give some stability, not say that people are undroppable no matter how badly they play. If players know that they're in for the next test even if they fail, there's little incentive to knuckle down.
Garry Nelson's teacher
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Swann expressed the opinion that this - involving a move to deploy 11 or 12 specialised scouts (each an expert in a discipline) - would be a good idea and might uncover hitherto ignored talent. I guess we have to see how it works out. I don't think there's a silver bullet out there waiting to be loaded. (Swann was also critical of the players themselves as much as the system.) I share others' gloom about the longer term prospects for Test cricket. (However, to re-balance a bit the game was virtually dying in the 1960s when I started supporting it and is still going.)
BensGrandad
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There is only 1 obvious answer the ECCB has to decide what their priorities are, limited over or Test Matches and then gear their policies towards that. I would personally look into scrapping one of the limited overs competitions and adjust the divisions with Minor Counties if needed added to a level that counties play each other twice in a 4 day game as per football home and away.
Pinkie Brown
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Or the 1st Test in Wellington in 1978 when needing 137 to win, England were skittled out for 64. The first time NZ had beaten England in a test. Sadly yes, I was there to witness it.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Or the 1st Test in Wellington in 1978 when needing 137 to win, England were skittled out for 64. The first time NZ had beaten England in a test. Sadly yes, I was there to witness it.
A rampant Hadlee. I think Geoffrey was captain for that one...
ManOfSussex
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Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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The main problem will be when this current crop don't get a central contract next time round or are dropped. The counties can't afford to pay what they deem themselves to be worth and they go off and play white cricket to County Cricket's detriment.
Pinkie Brown
Wir Sind das Volk
He was for the NZ part of the tour after Brearley was injured in Pakistan. In the England 2nd innings collapse, Boycotts opening partner Brian Rose went through the innings 5 not out!