England - bloody well done

[Storer68]

. We haven't disgraced ourselves in a finals since the '88 European Championships, so if they qualify they'll raise their game again.

You've obvioulsy forgotten Euro 92 in Sweden, the World Cup in 94 (of course how silly of me, we didn't qualify for that), Euro 2000 (Phil Neville) - France 98 was hardly an over-qualified success and even in Japan we scraped through.

I'm sorry but I've seen England do far far far far better than this. the fact this level of mediocirity is now deemed acceptable is jst symbolic of the damage being done to English football by the over concentration of imports in the premiership

david James - International goalkeeper? MY ARSE

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

I did forget '92. Clearly I've erased that one from the memory banks.

I didn't count the ones we didn't qualify for - if we ain't good enough to even qualify, I'm kind of glad we ain't there, as it could get painful. I thought in Euro 2000 we did well against quality opponents but were undone by bad defending - a symptom of the English game.

I should have qualified my comments, Storer. You're right - we have done better. But I think those better moments (Euro '96, Italy '90 etc) are the blips, not games like last night. We seem to think we're better than we actually are, and our expectations as a country are too high when weighed against the quality available to any England manager. Considering the dearth of genuinely world-class talent in England (we already look reliant on a 17 year old!) I think we do pretty well.

 

[Brady's Old Lady]

England at the moment remind me of Arsenal under George Graham. Always doing enough - whatever the opposition. And that worked for them - they were fairly successful.

We will never have footballers with the skill levels, and technical ability of the like of Brazil, or even Italy/Spain.

So we have to decide do we want to throw caution to the wind, try and play open attacking football, or be successful!

I personally will never forget Sweden '92, or the farcical qualifying phase for world Cup 94 that followed.
We must never ever employ anyone as clueless as GT as england manager again.

I repeat - Eriksson is the best manager we have had in all my time supporting England.

 

[Storer68]

Fair enough HHS but some os us are (justt) old enough to remember this and it does tend to cloud your judgement somewhat..........