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England at Euro 2012......why bother



geodavies

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Jan 8, 2012
452
Saltdean
We won't get out of the group, the weakest squad i can remember and i saw us win the world cup in black and white........depressed.
 




sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
13,274
Hove
That's the beauty of these Euros. The team are not being built up as world beaters and we can watch them with no expectation or pressure. Don't forget Denmark and Greece have won this tournament and no one gave them a chance :)
 


Butch Willykins

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Jun 17, 2011
2,552
Shoreham-by-Sea
Germany, Holland and Spain aside I doubt there is many teams that would fancy coming up against us. I'm not saying we are world beaters, but I think we may surprise a few people in the coming weeks.
 


geodavies

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Jan 8, 2012
452
Saltdean
That's the beauty of these Euros. The team are not being built up as world beaters and we can watch them with no expectation or pressure. Don't forget Denmark and Greece have won this tournament and no one gave them a chance :)
I wished i shared your optimism..........
 


Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
24,453
Sussex
lucky many never said similar remarks when we (BHA) were shit with no hope for years

If you are English , you support the team.

Want a guarenteed winning team , support Man City and Spain
 






geodavies

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Jan 8, 2012
452
Saltdean
Germany, Holland and Spain aside I doubt there is many teams that would fancy coming up against us. I'm not saying we are world beaters, but I think we may surprise a few people in the coming weeks.

Only because we make them work harder than normal, until they get bored then change up a gear. if you watch England regularly, you would have noticed we cannot change our game to suit the opposition, we had a chance with HR and typical FA, as with Brian Clough, we missed the boat.
 


del strangefish

Booooo!
Nov 1, 2008
1,635
Back of North Stand
Holland v Germany Final.
England knocked out in the quarters if they can scrape through the group in second.
Same old, same old I'm afraid !!
 




geodavies

New member
Jan 8, 2012
452
Saltdean
lucky many never said similar remarks when we (BHA) were shit with no hope for years

If you are English , you support the team.

Want a guarenteed winning team , support Man City and Spain

I never said i wouldn't support the team, it just depresses me that we always fail..........
 




Butch Willykins

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Jun 17, 2011
2,552
Shoreham-by-Sea
Only because we make them work harder than normal, until they get bored then change up a gear. if you watch England regularly, you would have noticed we cannot change our game to suit the opposition, we had a chance with HR and typical FA, as with Brian Clough, we missed the boat.

You need to read a book called 'Why England Lose: And other curious phenomena' by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski. It's fascinating and actually dispells the myth that we under achieve.

The England team actually over achieves in world football. Crazy but true!

Why England Lose: And other curious phenomena explained: Amazon.co.uk: Simon Kuper, Stefan Szymanski: Books
 




Marc1901

Peace out.
Apr 26, 2009
6,106
The Championship.
Germany, Holland and Spain aside I doubt there is many teams that would fancy coming up against us. I'm not saying we are world beaters, but I think we may surprise a few people in the coming weeks.

Very much this.

Like I said before, we can get as far as the semi's and anything passed that is a bonus BUT I believe we can win it, have faith. I doubt the players are going into the tournament thinking " oh this is pointless, we're just going to get knocked out " so why does everyone else?

Woy Hodgson's barmy army!
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
29,319
We won't get out of the group, the weakest squad i can remember and i saw us win the world cup in black and white........depressed.

So be it if it happens... WHY BOTHER? Because I'm ENGLISH, PROUD and a MASSIVE FOOTBALL FAN. You seem to think just cos we won't win it you won't bother with it - premiershite alert

lucky many never said similar remarks when we (BHA) were shit with no hope for years

If you are English , you support the team.

Want a guarenteed winning team , support Man City and Spain

Well said mate. I have made this point for years on here - people seem to turn into plastic 'if we dont win the world cup we're shit and there's no point' fans when it comes to England. Pathetic. Support your team - even if we were Moldova I'd still watch my Country and support.

You need to read a book called 'Why England Lose: And other curious phenomena' by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski. It's fascinating and actually dispells the myth that we under achieve.

The England team actually over achieves in world football. Crazy but true!

Why England Lose: And other curious phenomena explained: Amazon.co.uk: Simon Kuper, Stefan Szymanski: Books

Another true point people miss. We've been a top 10 ish world side for a long time. We're a fairly small country compared to most. Do the Russians do better than us? Do they f***. People expect to much. Euro 96 / WC 98 etc - some of my best football memories - the feeling of the whole country united behind our lads. I'm sure it will happen again - there are some of us still feeling that way (i think they're called SUPPORTERS)
 


forrest

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Aug 11, 2010
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haywards heath
Hey Woy has a habbit of doing great things with so called crap teams. The bookies have us down as 4th favourites for the Euro's, mind you i think that has more to do with the money that people put on us to win. At 10/1 i'm going to have a punt.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
I've seen us put out better teams it's true but, you never know. Remember, when the groups were drawn ?, the sighs of relief that we have not really drawn more than 2, " tasty" teams ? We have high hopes of making the knockout stage but I have had my false hopes dashed so many times since Mexico '70.... but maybe, when we don't have a hope in hell,when we don't over hype our hopes you never know, million to one shots turn up nine times out of ten after all....
 


00snook

Active member
Aug 20, 2007
2,357
Southsea
Hodgson will sort the defence out.

We have a good squad going forward.

Could be our best tournament for a long long while.
 


Max Paper

Sunshiinnnnneeee
Nov 3, 2009
5,784
Testicles
I REALLY hope we do well but group stages I think France we'll lose, Sweden we'll win and Ukraine (remember they are at home) draw. 4 points will put us out, I hope i'm wrong
 




Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,871
lucky many never said similar remarks when we (BHA) were shit with no hope for years

If you are English , you support the team.

Want a guarenteed winning team , support Man City and Spain
Spot on. Far too many 'premiership' England fans on here with a false sense of entitlement, but at least the unfounded over-expectation is missing this time. Still expecting a bombastic Sky advert and some unrealistic tabloid headlines though.

Looking forward to it, and I'll still be English regardless of performance.
 


matthew

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Sep 20, 2009
2,413
Ovingdean, United Kingdom
have to say the squad is awful and media will expect so much. Feel sorry for Roy but he's made some bad selections to an already shit pool of players to pick from
 


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