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[Football] England 2018 World Cup Squad - No Hart, no Wilshere...









pornomagboy

wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
May 16, 2006
6,089
peacehaven
no Ryan Sessegnon been quality this season



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Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
That's definitely a 3 at the back squad, assuming Walker is being considered as the right of that three - which he has only ever played for England, once. Haven't England tried shoe-horning players into a system before... how did that work out last time forcing Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard into an awkward midfield shape?

I wouldn't have taken Alexander-Arnold, I think it's too much and too soon if we expect him to play a part. Rio Ferdinand made a good point though, he went to 1998 without playing any minutes and it set him up nicely for 2002 when he played every game. A-A going must be for the experience and extreme cover if required but I'm not sure I wouldn't have rather seen Aaron Cresswell instead of him or Ashley Young. I would have taken Nathan Redmond instead of Lingard - I don't see anything Lingard offers which Dele Alli isn't significantly better at.
 


mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,922
England
I'm now in no doubt at all the Adam Lallana HAS to be in this squad. Yes he has played basically no football this year, but, as stated above, Wilshire was the ONLY one who actually breaks the line with the ball.

In my mind, if we don't take lallana (and with no OX), we have about 5 central midfielders who basically pass it sideways for a living.

I like Southgate and I like what he has done since taking over, However if we don't take either Wilshire or Lallana then I will be well and truly stumped. I personally would have taken both.

Ah Brilliant. We didn't even take Lallana either. Great.

That leaves Loftus Cheek as the one CM who will dare look forward. Lovely.
 
















Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,265
Taking Alexander-Arnold makes no sense when Trippier and Walker are already there. As for taking full-backs for the experience, it hasn't exactly helped England that we took Luke Shaw to Brazil 4 years ago.

As a squad it's undoubtably the worst on paper that I can remember us taking to a major tournament.

I don't see much cohesion (especially in defence), there's a lack of creativity in midfield, the goalkeeping inexperience is a worry AND YET our attacking players are in good form - Kane, Sterling, Alli, Vardy all carry a threat.
 






hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
62,759
Chandlers Ford
There will be differences of opinion on pretty much every selection, bar Harry Kane, but seriously, can ANYONE suggest a SINGLE REASON why Danny Wellbeck should be included in that squad? :shrug:
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,865
Jeez. If that was the Albion squad for next season I'd be worried about whether we'd stay up or not.

Still c'mon England! No one's expecting anything so you can't disappoint.
 




Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
Well, he's taking an attacking team, so he'd better score some bloody goals!

Let's hope the pundits aren't left asking why we didn't take a central defender who knows how to put their body on the line.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,922
England
Taking Alexander-Arnold makes no sense when Trippier and Walker are already there. As for taking full-backs for the experience, it hasn't exactly helped England that we took Luke Shaw to Brazil 4 years ago.

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With 'The Ox' being injured (he can play wing/wing back), Southgate needed a 3rd right full back option. Walker will play as the right side of a back 3, meaning that, with Tripper as the starting RWB, we required one more.
 








Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,464
Hove
I would have taken Nathan Redmond instead of Lingard - I don't see anything Lingard offers which Dele Alli isn't significantly better at.

And at international level I've not seen anything Alli is significantly good at either...We are going to struggle. But then we knew that.

Not sure what you've seen in Redmond that would suggest he takes the place of someone who has delivered on the big stages. Not sure what the Lallana love in with some people is either, wouldn't get in my squad, no consistency, thinks he is a lot better than he is.

Can't argue with the squad really, probably is about the best we can take, which in all honesty makes the 1/4 finals a big achievement for them.
 


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