[Football] Ending Season Ticket Culture

[Guinness Boy]

Perhaps because it pisses on this tedious fishing trip

Well precisely

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Over 2.5k available tonight. In these circumstances still think it is a shame ticket cant be passed on to someone who genuinely just cant afford to attend and there are many in this position. Getting these people to the odd game means they are more likely to want a ST when there financial circumstaces change.

One thing that would massively help is not insisting that kids pay full price when you buy a ticket off the exchange for them. I'd probably snap up a spare tonight for my 10 year old but not at £40+.

I know it's complex as they have to 'reimburse' the person who listed it but obviously some of those listed would be kids anyway, so the club are making a profit when those are sold. And it would reduce the amount that go empty I'd imagine.

 

[Zeberdi]

Over 2.5k available tonight. In these circumstances still think it is a shame ticket cant be passed on to someone who genuinely just cant afford to attend and there are many in this position. Getting these people to the odd game means they are more likely to want a ST when there financial circumstaces change.

We are a Premier League Club not a charity.


Just a cursory glance at the tickets available tonight was enough to see plenty of concession seats and adult seats available for £48 and under. The idea that some fans can’t afford to pay £47 for a ticket is doing a lot of heavy lifting. It is a question of how one prioritises.

My question is why are so many tickets going on the exchange? Non- STH do not get cheaper tickets or any other benefits so I guess that’s why STHs come under more scrutiny as fans when they don’t attend home matches.

 

[Silver f Chariot]

We are a Premier League Club not a charity.


Just a cursory glance at the tickets available tonight was enough to see plenty of concession seats and adult seats available for £43 and under. The idea that some fans can’t afford to pay £43 for a ticket is doing a lot of heavy lifting. It is a question of how one prioritises.

My question is why are so many tickets going on the exchange? Non- STH do not get cheaper tickets or any other benefits so I guess that’s why STHs come under more scrutiny as fans when they don’t attend home matches.

so many tickets are going on the exchange IMO because having a season ticket now basically requires a 4 day commitment to go to games now. People are not prepared to do that so they buy a ticket on the proviso that it is likely to be "sat" but i'll write off the odd game here and there if I can 't go - Now to have a season ticket you pretty much have to keep, friday, sat, sun and monday free now "in case" a game gets moved. Commitung to a season ticket use to commit to the odd tuesday night but mainly saturday's (and pretty much every other saturday_
Its changed - but in order to go to games you have to have a season ticket as a way of guaranteeing to get in...... so you buy one, write off the cost of 3 games and deal with it. - club still get the full amount..

 

[chaileyjem]

Well precisely

we've all got our hobby horses @Guinness Boy !!

 

[Guinness Boy]

I know a fair few season ticket holders who swerved it - Yet go to every PL home game and at least half a dozen away games . Aren’t they “hardcore” ?

To give you a serious answer you pretty much exactly described me and I missed it. Son went and had Japanese family right near him. So clearly some swapped in and swapped out. The numbers don't lie though. We have 20.5k STH but over 2000 have gone on the exchange for this game and a similar number did for Palace. Our guaranteed 'bums on seats' is circa 17-18k. That's not a dig at anyone individual, it's simply factual data that takes into account different people missing different games for different reasons.

I hear one of our super fans is missing one game this season but he's obviously part of that number.

 

[Wardy's twin]

But We literally do sell out every home game and nearly all away games. All the 1901 are sold out. All season tickets sold out months before the start of the season and i suspect they will for 25/26. Match day tickets all sell out in the Premier League and nearly all away ends come to that.
What doesn't sell out - i guess, is is all the tickets TWICE...ie: the ones that go on the exchange that the club have sold once already. Although many of those sell as well .

The "deals" offered to season ticket holders (travel, small percentage rises most years, interest free / admin fee free loans) are just normal and have been in place since the Amex was built. Its a long time since the club have offered half season tickets for example.

Is a supporter a A+ member ? thats quite a commitment - £35 per year etc. What about those that attend a few times a year . Must be thousands and thousands. I'd argue we have way more than 30K+ supporters just on that basis.

I agree we have more than 30k individual fans who have attended a game this season, that will include my grandson who has attended one game. Remember my figure was in response to the context of the original posting, IMO we don't have enough fans to say we would fil the ground every game if we were charging the standard non-STH price for a ticket and you also moved seats regularly. All about opinion as don't have access to the actual numbers but pretty sure if every game has sold out , certainly we haven't sold everything on the exchange.

 

[Guinness Boy]

we've all got our hobby horses @Guinness Boy !!

We have. And the OP's seems to be reducing our home attendance even further by making tickets more expensive because he got up one morning bored, sulked about not having an ST and started this abortion of a thread.

 

[chaileyjem]

I agree we have more than 30k individual fans who have attended a game this season, that will include my grandson who has attended one game. Remember my figure was in response to the context of the original posting, IMO we don't have enough fans to say we would fil the ground every game if we were charging the standard non-STH price for a ticket and you also moved seats regularly. All about opinion as don't have access to the actual numbers but pretty sure if every game has sold out , certainly we haven't sold everything on the exchange.

yes. we fill the ground or rather sell out because we have a lot of season ticket holders who get discounted tickets. (we also sell a lot of matchday tickets, 1901 tickets, and exchange tickets that are considerably more expensive and routinely sell too).

Not sure there's anything to suggest that model is likely to change any time soon - not at Brighton anyway.

And yep. we don't always sell tickets twice on the Exchange - for a host of reasons. Club obviously have clocked that side of things, and don't want empty seats even if they have guaranteed revenue - hence the rule change next year .

 

[southstandandy]

Take the wife to Bridget Jones (part 4) or The Amex? Hmmm Hard choice!

 

[amexer]

I dont know why many go on about discounted tickets as if the club is doing us a favour. The favour is the other way round to comit a year in advance to pay for 18 games. Would be interesting what the attendances would be if all tickets were sold at match day prices especially for mid week games and winter months.
Similar to travel. Can you imagine the queues for buses and trains if you had to buy and show tickets. Lets face it good job STs were sold for tonight because little demand to buy those seats on exchange at match day prices.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

One thing that would massively help is not insisting that kids pay full price when you buy a ticket off the exchange for them. I'd probably snap up a spare tonight for my 10 year old but not at £40+.

I know it's complex as they have to 'reimburse' the person who listed it but obviously some of those listed would be kids anyway, so the club are making a profit when those are sold. And it would reduce the amount that go empty I'd imagine.

Concessionary STs listed on the exchange can be purchased at a concessionary price (assuming you qualify). They are shown as a star when looking at availability.

 

[portlock seagull]

We have. And the OP's seems to be reducing our home attendance even further by making tickets more expensive because he got up one morning bored, sulked about not having an ST and started this abortion of a thread.

I've probably been a STH more years than you, am not able to affect our attendance least of all reduce it, I'm neither 'sulking' or was 'bored', nor can this be an 'abortion of a thread' (which you can't help revisiting) when it's topical in football. Your choice of these snide words merely convey your opinion, not facts, but do reflect your consistent capacity to be generally unpleasant to many on here. They are therefore of no real surprise or consequence.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Concessionary STs listed on the exchange can be purchased at a concessionary price (assuming you qualify). They are shown as a star when looking at availability.

Did not know this! Must have just never been any when I've looked.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

Did not know this! Must have just never been any when I've looked.

It might be a recent change in terms of how they show available concession tickets.

Example below so you can see what I mean ...

 

[Wardy's twin]

yes. we fill the ground or rather sell out because we have a lot of season ticket holders who get discounted tickets. (we also sell a lot of matchday tickets, 1901 tickets, and exchange tickets that are considerably more expensive and routinely sell too).

Not sure there's anything to suggest that model is likely to change any time soon - not at Brighton anyway.

And yep. we don't always sell tickets twice on the Exchange - for a host of reasons. Club obviously have clocked that side of things, and don't want empty seats even if they have guaranteed revenue - hence the rule change next year .

Agree, at west ham away loads of fans had half and half scarves, same at a few others. We are not in that league .