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[Other Sport] Emma Raducanu



bhafc99

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Oct 14, 2003
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Wow. Watched the first three games, which were all closely fought (all went to deuces) but included a break against Radacanu.

Then went to bed, as it was late here, thinking that she was at least giving it a good go and while she might not quite have enough, it certainly wouldn't be easy for the Yank.

Then wake up to a 6-2, 6-1 massacre! :bowdown:
 




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Oct 8, 2003
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"British"

81 posts before the gammon interjection. Not too bad for NSC I guess :shrug;

Also, I thought you were better than that. Apparently not.
 


Seagull27

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Feb 7, 2011
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Robson, Rusedski, Norrie, Edmund etc etc

Thankfully we have coke head Evans
You might have a point with a couple of those,* but Raducanu 100% has the right to play for GB. Her options:
- China, where her Mum is from, but otherwise hasn't ever lived there for any extensive period
- Romania, where her Dad is from, but otherwise hasn't lived there for any extensive period
- Canada, where she was born and lived for her first 2 years, but otherwise has little obvious connection to
- or GB, where she has lived for 16 of her 18 years, was educated here for her entire childhood, and where she has received all of her tennis training from the age of 5

*Though ultimately, there are many different things that contribute to what nationality you are and surely it is mostly down to the individual to decide which country they feel the strongest connection to (as long as they have some claim to the country)
 


Hugo Rune

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His parents are Welsh and Scottish.
That's pretty British don't you reckon?

Not for me. I believe that your nationality is determined by where you were born and how long you have lived in a country. Couldn’t care less where the parents are from. This South African lad apparently didn’t set foot in Britain until he was 16. In comparison to Emma, he is barely British.
 


A1X

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I'm seeing parallels with Andrew Strauss with Emma Raducanu's heritage, he was born in South Africa but moved here at a young age, and TBH he's done alright by English cricket over the years...
 




Razzoo

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Sep 11, 2011
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Not for me. I believe that your nationality is determined by where you were born and how long you have lived in a country. Couldn’t care less where the parents are from. This South African lad apparently didn’t set foot in Britain until he was 16. In comparison to Emma, he is barely British.

I disagree, I was born in Kenya and lived there for 4 years I am not Kenyan. Why are you against factoring in parental heritage?
 


Hugo Rune

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I disagree, I was born in Kenya and lived there for 4 years I am not Kenyan. Why are you against factoring in parental heritage?

Parental heritage should be factored in but I believe that experience living in a country and being born there are more important. Raducanu was born in Canada and lived there for her first two years but her next 16 years of going through our education, cultural and British zeitgeist makes her a lot more British than a chap who first set foot on the isles aged 16, no matter where the parents came from.
 


dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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This isn't a new argument. The likes of John Barnes have been told for years that they can't be English, because they weren't born here. It's all nonsense - you can become British by adoption and by inclination, even if you weren't British by birth.
 






Bry Nylon

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Jul 21, 2003
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Tennis aside, that was a great display of mental strength, composure and being in the moment.

After what happened at Wimbledon just a few months ago, last night was so much more than simply winning a tennis match.
 






Bob!

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Jul 5, 2003
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So

do we know when her next match is?
 




dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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I disagree, I was born in Kenya and lived there for 4 years I am not Kenyan. Why are you against factoring in parental heritage?
You don't even need parental heritage. If your parents had both been Kenyan and you had been born in Kenya and moved to Britain aged 4, you could still be as British as someone whose parents came over with the Vikings. Or you could be Kenyan. Or both.
 




Badger Boy

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Jan 28, 2016
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There was something I found a little troubling in her post-match interview - she reminded me a lot of Eugenie Bouchard. Bouchard broke into the game in a really impressive way and then lost herself to modelling and endorsements. Emma is a beautiful girl with so much talent, I really hope she has more positive influences on her and she's able to maintain this level. Her performance yesterday was extraordinary - having lost the first two games to win 11 in a row and 12 of the last 13 is incredible for a woman her age and considering her lack of match experience. Shelby Rogers had played a long doubles match after beating World Number 1 (and Wimbledon champion) Ashleigh Barty which probably didn't help her - but Emma wasn't missing. Her consistency was amazing and when put under pressure when serving for the match, she simplified her game and got the match finished.

I'm reluctant to get too excited though, I don't want to get burnt again! Bouchard looked like she would be top 10 consistently for years to come. I really thought Laura Robson was going to be a top 10 player as well, it's a huge shame what's happened to her career.
 


Thunder Bolt

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Not for me. I believe that your nationality is determined by where you were born and how long you have lived in a country. Couldn’t care less where the parents are from. This South African lad apparently didn’t set foot in Britain until he was 16. In comparison to Emma, he is barely British.

Do you work for the Home Office? I was reading about a woman receiving a letter telling her she had to apply for Settled Status. She was born in Germany when her father was there serving in BAOR. She’s had to through hoops trying to obtain his service record to prove he was in the army.
A friend of mine was born in Egypt as his father was there with the RAF.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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Tennis aside, that was a great display of mental strength, composure and being in the moment.

After what happened at Wimbledon just a few months ago, last night was so much more than simply winning a tennis match.

Yes, she looked hard as nails, focused but relaxed, undaunted by the early set backs (first 2 games), and the complete opposite of plucky.

I also liked her post match interview where she let slip she wouldn't be thinking about tennis any more that day (as in - job done, move on).

Amazon Prime does have its uses....
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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This isn't a new argument. The likes of John Barnes have been told for years that they can't be English, because they weren't born here. It's all nonsense - you can become British by adoption and by inclination, even if you weren't British by birth.

Quite.

However, we have posters on NSC who still think 'there ain't no black in the union jack' etc.

Fortunately their opinions don't count any more :shrug:

As an aside, I lived for 4 years in Canada and flirted with the idea of staying there. Would I have become Canadian? I think if I took up citizenship I would have done, but it's hard to tell. I was in my late 20s by then so the damage may well have been done. I spent my last two years there dreaming about Harveys bitter :lolol:

We are what we want to be and what the laws allow.
 








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