Embryo Case....

[Skint Gull]

Whats the view of NSC?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6530295.stm


Even as a bloke I personally think the whole thing is wrong! If the bloke agreed to it at the time that is all the consent required as far as i am concerned. If you make a f*** up and get someone pregnant on a one night stand that's a spur of the moment decision that you can't go back on, why should you be able to go back on an informed decision like this?

Just my opinion but i expect this to open up a whole can of NSC worms cos i doubt that i'm in the majority here!

 

[Les Biehn]

Whats the view of NSC?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6530295.stm


Even as a bloke I personally think the whole thing is wrong! If the bloke agreed to it at the time that is all the consent required as far as i am concerned. If you make a f*** up and get someone pregnant on a one night stand that's a spur of the moment decision that you can't go back on, why should you be able to go back on an informed decision like this?

Just my opinion but i expect this to open up a whole can of NSC worms cos i doubt that i'm in the majority here!

But thats like saying if you didn't bag up but didn't get her pregnant and she wants to get pregnant then by rights she should be able to make you do it again until she is pregnant.

If you are stupid enough not to bag up then its your own fault. If you make an informed decision but circustances change then you should have the right to change your mind. It would be his child to, why should she have the sole right to decide if these embryo should be used.

 

[Skint Gull]

Re: Re: Embryo Case....

But thats like saying if you didn't bag up but didn't get her pregnant and she wants to get pregnant then by rights she should be able to make you do it again until she is pregnant.

If you are stupid enough not to bag up then its your own fault. If you make an informed decision but circustances change then you should have the right to change your mind. It would be his child to, why should she have the sole right to decide if these embryo should be used.

Because at the point these were created he did choose to do it, as far as i'm concerned there's no goin back from there

 

[Les Biehn]

Re: Re: Re: Embryo Case....

Because at the point these were created he did choose to do it, as far as i'm concerned there's no goin back from there

But the point is that there is some going back there.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I can see both sides - but it is simply very sad that he can't find it within himself to give her what is clearly so important. I am sure there are many reasons not to - but there is a simple humanitarian reason to let her use go ahead. All very sad.

 

[British Bulldog]

Correct decision. They're divorced and if he does'nt want her to have his child he has every right to say no.

 

[DJ Leon]

Whats the view of NSC?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6530295.stm


Even as a bloke I personally think the whole thing is wrong! If the bloke agreed to it at the time that is all the consent required as far as i am concerned. If you make a f*** up and get someone pregnant on a one night stand that's a spur of the moment decision that you can't go back on, why should you be able to go back on an informed decision like this?

Just my opinion but i expect this to open up a whole can of NSC worms cos i doubt that i'm in the majority here!

It's the right decision. He doesn't want a child with this woman, how can you justify forcing him to?

 

[desprateseagull]

ex hubby seems rather spiteful, knowing he can still has the oppurtunity to get someone else pregnant in the future, while denying his ex the joy of motherhood which he knew before threatment started wouldnt happen, without these eggs being preserved..

I'd hate to grow up, knowing he was my biologial father, and didnt want me.

perhaps the woman should approach the peeps on NSC, as seems to be plenty of t'ssers on there...

nah scratch that (see para.2!)

 

[Buzzer]

If the courts had said yes to the woman could a man then demand a woman have a baby even if she wanted an abortion?

 

[¡Cereal Killer!]

Twas the CORRECT desicion

Why should she use his embryo if he doesn't want her to?
It shouldn't even have gone to court to be honest, complete waste of time

 

[Curious Orange]

ex hubby seems rather spiteful, knowing he can still has the oppurtunity to get someone else pregnant in the future, while denying his ex the joy of motherhood which he knew before threatment started wouldnt happen, without these eggs being preserved..

Has this woman thought about adopting, I know its a hard process, but there are already living children out there who need parents - this is a nobler route than trying to force children on a man who doesn't want to have them with her.

 

[Billy the Fish]

The correct decision in this case. I don't know if it's medically possible but couldn't they have just frozen some unfertilized eggs in case they split up. I'm sure her new boyfriend wouldn't mind jizzing into a petrie dish

 

[The Large One]

ex hubby seems rather spiteful, knowing he can still has the oppurtunity to get someone else pregnant in the future, while denying his ex the joy of motherhood which he knew before threatment started wouldnt happen, without these eggs being preserved..

I'd hate to grow up, knowing he was my biologial father, and didnt want me.

perhaps the woman should approach the peeps on NSC, as seems to be plenty of t'ssers on there...

nah scratch that (see para.2!)

The man changed his mind about having a child BEFORE she was impregnated or whatever needed to happen.

If the woman was able to conceive, there is no way the courts could force a man to get his wife pregnant, even if they did get together with the intention of having children. Women are perfectly capable of changing their minds about wanting children after they meet their partner, so I am scratching my head as to what the legal case is here. UK laws are very clear on it.

The sad fact is that the woman refused to accept the decision of her ex-partner.

The courts made the RIGHT decision.

 

[Robot Chicken]

Yes, this is the correct decision. Tough but that's life.

 

[Clothes Peg]

The correct decision in this case. I don't know if it's medically possible but couldn't they have just frozen some unfertilized eggs in case they split up. I'm sure her new boyfriend wouldn't mind jizzing into a petrie dish

My thoughts entirely. And this case is so high profile now, I'm sure she'll be able to get an egg donor if she's that desperate.

 

[Nemesis]

A difficult case but I believe that the correct decision was reached. Who's to know what the woman would demand in the future from the 'father'. Would he be financially liable? If she were to die-would he be expected to take responsibilty for the kid(s)?

 

[Pavilionaire]

It was the correct decision. What man in his right mind would want a woman who he'd previously DIVORCED to then go on and have his baby

I think 2 points are important here:

1. Divorce actually means something. Life is not the same as it was when the couple were married. Maybe people should think about that before they tie the knot.

2. The woman needs to get her head round the fact IT AIN'T HAPPENING! She's been dealt a hand of cards she's got to get on with and play, rather than f*** up the lives of the father, his family AND condemn the intended baby to a life without its father being on hand.

 

[Gully]

I also think it is the right decision, but agree wholeheartedly with what Billy said, she should also have kept some unfertilised eggs just in case this sort of situation arose.

So then gentlemen, if two gay friends of yours (female) wanted some of your sperm so that they could make a baby, what would you do?

 

[magoo]

Re: Re: Re: Embryo Case....

Because at the point these were created he did choose to do it, as far as i'm concerned there's no goin back from there

I think they were a loving couple when that decision was made. He only refused after they split up. Makes sense.

She can't force a man to be the father, that's like a form of rape.

It's a woman's right to change her mind and refuse sex even when she has consented and is in the middle of the act. Why isn't it his right to refuse fatherood even after he has consented?

 

[DC Rules]

I don't think that you can keep unfertilised eggs, which is why I think they have to fertilise them first.

As a mother of 5 kids, I agree the right decision was made. The ex-husband was interviewed on the radio yesterday and he said he didn't want to become the father to a child that he would have no say over bringing up etc.

I was lucky never to need any intervention conceiving, and I'm sure it must be hard if you can't have kids, but I agree with Pavilionaire that life is hard, and she needs to move on. My sister has no kids, which was not by choice; she did fall pregnant once but miscarried (spookily 15 years ago today!!). She has been a great aunt to my kids, but realised she had to move on from the fact that she couldn't have kids and get on with her life. Unfortunately she was by then too old to adopt, but there is that option available to people, and there are lots of unwanted kids out there already.